exboater

north carolina

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i would take the toad. we were there a couple of years ago. yes there are bus tours, but we were much happier with the toad because some places the bus doesnt go you might want to go or you might want to stay in a certain place and take pictures. in addition it would be a crime to go this far and miss flagstaff and sedona and some of the indian ruins in the area. if you are 65 get a golden age passport for use in federal parks. in vegas you will want a car to see hoover dam. just too much to see not to have car. besides it will be easier on the gas to use car for side trips rather than the motorhome.
also dont burn up the road getting there and miss some of the scenery along the way. midwest is full of places, as are the rockies. new mexico,and nevada
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kalynzoo

Los Angeles , California

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I cannot imagine a truly successful 3 week trip without a toad, unless you plan to rent along the way. Rental is an option, but we tried it a few times and found it cumbersome. It takes an hour or more to fill out the paperwork and then you have to wait for a ride back to the campground. Returning the car takes about the same. We enjoy taking the tow car out for an occasional dinner. Some side trips, like the Buffalo preserves near Dodge, and other wildlife viewing areas are not really RV friendly. We enjoy taking side road trips to wine tasting, local craft fairs, and historic sights. These roads often require leaving the MH near the main road and driving off the beaten path. If your staying on the Interstate, you can make it without the tow. Even at the Grand Canyon, you can find bus/rv parking, and take the trams completely through the top of the park. Hope this helps. Happy Trails.
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G Bash

Poughkeepsie, NY

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Thank you all for the quick replies. Sounds like bringing the toad from NY is the way to go.
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G Bash

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In September 2008 we completed our 3 week trip from NY to New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Colorada and then back home. We covered 14 states and visted 8 National Parks. We took the toad with us and used it a lot. I would hate to think of the sites that we would have missed if we han't brought it with us. Brought the toad and left the bikes home. We had a great time.
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SteveRuff

Bacliff, Texas, USA

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We spent the first 2 years of our RV'ing with a smaller Class C and no toad. Once we added the toad our whole experience opened up. We saw much more, went more, and explored more. I found that more often than not, we opted to stay in the campground rather than unhook, stow everything away and drive someplace. We also never used the option to rent a car because it just never seemed convenient. The end result was that we simply missed out on a lot that first two years. I would never want to travel without the toad again.
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sparker1

St Petersburg, Fl, USA

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Like most others, I've done it without a toad, but never would again. There's just too much that can't be done in a MH, or can't be done without a lot of trouble.
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creeper

Richmond Hill, Georgia

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You have to think on how much you will use it. There is plenty of parking for your class C. 21 days is not very much considering the distance you will be traveling. You have to consider 5 days of driving out and 5 days back if you do about 500 miles a day, 10 hours a day driving. Very ambitious trip.
If you plan to stay in one location for days at a time then take it. If you're going to do a hit and run, then don't. We've done it both ways and enjoyed them all. Is some places the toad would have been a hinderance.
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PattieAM

Maryland

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Having the toad to do day trips would be beneficial.
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Horsedoc

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We did Grand Canyon and Las Vegas a few years ago without a towed. Mistake!! Thought we would save money on fuel by not towing and just renting a car. We were going to ride the buses at GC. We figured out right away that the convenience of having the towed is worth more than the cost of the fuel to tow it.
If you see some place you would like to visit while enroute, you have either pass it up, or take a chance on the MH not being able to get in due to size. With the towed we could/would have stayed longer at the canyon, but the buses are SLOW in getting to where you want to go. They make every stop. Ms Carol has to have a wheelchair or mobility scooter due to Multiple Sclerosis. Now the bus drivers were the nicest guys you could ever want to meet. One told me if I had a car he could give me a pass to get to places that only buses are allowed to travel. Next trip, we will know better.
Las Vegas was not a problem. We rented a car from the casino at Circus Circus and it was great.
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OP should be back by now
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