AZJeepnut
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Hi,
I want to ditch the 15" wheel/tire combo on my '05 Jazz, and upgrade to 16". I searched and there's planty of info on 16" tires, I couldn't find much about wheels. Mine are 6 lug. Can I just go to the local tire store and get 16" chrome wagon wheels that match the width/offset of the stockers? Or, do I need a special trailer wheel that has a higher weight and psi rating?
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SH
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I am definitely not a "wheel" authority but two things that come to mind...1) Trailer wheels often have a zero offset and I don't think the wheels you buy for cars/trucks fit that spec. (just reread that you are aware of this) 2) Be sure the wheel you get is rated for the PSI/Weight rating of the tires you purchase.
I couldn't do the 16 inch mod so I had to buy new wheels for the E rated 80 PSI tires (Denman) They were also rated to 2830 lbs. Seems to be a lot of variance in wheel ratings!
Best of luck!
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Hide Pounder
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Go to a Trailer manufacture or other trailer supply company to get those wheels. We upgraded ours from 15 -16 and got ours at a factory that made Agr. type trailers. Our wheels are steel welded for heavy loads. Don't remember the load rating.
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LEC
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I just went through this same thing a while back with 15" wheels. Here is a selection of 6 lug 16" wheels.
I am currently running the Series 06 and have used a couple of sets of the Series 03 as well in the past. My experience with these 16" wheels is that they work well with E rated LT tires and balance out fine.
The thing I like about the Series 06 wheel is the removable center hubcap. After a bearing repack or brake adjustment I run them on the first trip out without the center cap installed. Its then easy to check the hub's temperature. If the wheel is running warm then you can remove the grease cap and adjust the axle nut as required without removing the tire. On the other wheels shown the hubcaps are installed in the wheel from the rear before the wheel is mounted on the trailer. The hubcap is held in place by the wheel against the brake drum.
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Sherr20
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LEC, How is the quality of the Hi Spec series 06? I am looking to order the series 06 HD version as I need a wheel rated for 110psi and greater than 3500lbs. Is thye finish on the wheel good and overall appearance? Made in China?
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M GO BLUE
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Did this about 1 1/2 years ago...went from a 15" "D" rated Carlisle trailer tire and completely replaced all 5 tires and rims with a 16" "E" Uniroyal Laredo LT tire on our 2001 Jayco Eagle fifth wheel...one of the better things I have done...in my opinion of 10000+ lb fifth wheel was way too much for a 15" D tire but that's the way it came originally from the factory
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gorjo01
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Don't want to hijack this post, but I was thinking about upgrading to 16" tires also, but I would like to know apart from the obvious cost of the tires and wheels, what other expenses are involved? What about clearance? Do you need to replace your axles also?
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M GO BLUE
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gorjo01 wrote:Don't want to hijack this post, but I was thinking about upgrading to 16" tires also, but I would like to know apart from the obvious cost of the tires and wheels, what other expenses are involved? What about clearance? Do you need to replace your axles also?
When I went from 15" to 16" I still had enough clearance between the tires as well as enough clearance from the top of the tire to the top of the wheel well, both og which I had enough clearance to do so...has made a vast improvement on stability and towing the the fifth wheel
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M GO BLUE, I went from the 15" Marathon "D" and Titan "E" tires to 16" XPS 245/75 on an 05 Eagle 322 TT after I first got the opportunity to cleanup the mess they made on both sides. I agree with you, all Eagles should have come from the factory with 16" wheels. IMHO, anything over 8500 GVWR should have at least a ST 235/80 X 16 on it when its built.
gorjo01, according to Dexter you want at least 3" of space between the top of the tire and the trailer floor and 1" of clearance between the 2 tires. My Jayco initially came with 2.75" in the clear between the tire and the floor. Therefore, to go from a 225/15 to a 225/16, which would was the simplest option I would have lost .5" of clearance. That would have cut me back to around 2.25 max clearance between the tire and floor which would have been to close for comfort. Therefore, I had to "flip the axles" using Dexter's kit where you mount a new spring pad on the top of the axle and move you springs above the axle which gains about 5.5" in height. Then, since clearance was no longer an issue, I went with 245/16 XPS rib. I wanted to get the strongest steel sidewall tire on the market to help with any center of gravity issues that could arise. Even though it now sits higher, it tows a lot better then it ever did with 15" ST tires because the XPS sits upright and carrys the load w/o wallowing like the soft sidewall ST tires. No, you should not have to replace your axle for this upgrade assuming you are already running 6 lug 15" wheels.
Sherr20, the 06, like the rest of them listed , are cast aluminum, made in China and rated at 3200# @ 80 PSI. This allows you to run an LT E rated tire on your trailer. The fit an finish is good, they are clear coated and the do balance up fine with very little lateral run out. They definitely are better then the stamped and welded steel OEM wheels. Personally, I like the 03's the best but that's me.
The hubcap on the 06 is plastic, matching silver in color. It is held in place a black machine screw that goes into the wheel and a plastic locking tab on the opposite side. The will not come off as long as put the screw in tight.
As I said, I like the 06, for the capability, if needed, to get to the grease cap, hub and axle nut without having to first remove the tire. You could even pull the wheel w/o removing the tire first if had to for a roadside repair. With that being said, it is a good looking wheel, has the right offset for a trailer and will definitely make your whole rig look a lot better then the white steel wheels. I also prefer them over chrome since you will not have any rust issues.
These wheels are made/imported by HiSpec and are what you find on new trailers that come with aluminum wheels from the factory. If I remember correctly, HiSpec initially came out with this design a couple years back as an OEM option for Starcraft TT. On the HiSpec sight the 06 looks to be patterned after the Starcraft wheel.
Anyway, for roughly $120 delivered, I could not find anything on the market that would work any better.
AZJeepnut, I don't mean to hijack you thread either, but you will have to address these issues if you decide to go down the upgrade path. Last thing, you will raise you first step 6" higher off the ground which will most likely have to be addressed for the DW. You will probably need to review your hitch setup once you get done.
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gorjo01
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M GO BLUE wrote:gorjo01 wrote:Don't want to hijack this post, but I was thinking about upgrading to 16" tires also, but I would like to know apart from the obvious cost of the tires and wheels, what other expenses are involved? What about clearance? Do you need to replace your axles also?
When I went from 15" to 16" I still had enough clearance between the tires as well as enough clearance from the top of the tire to the top of the wheel well, both og which I had enough clearance to do so...has made a vast improvement on stability and towing the the fifth wheel
Thanks for the info, can you give me the exact size of your replacement tire?
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