mrjimboalaska
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oh man, why don't we just switch the conversation to owning your "Strawman" and how the Government sells our birth Certificate whe you are born.......
Meanwhile, I will continue to enjoy my Alaska PFD.........
DRILL HERE DRILL NOW PAY LESS!
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AO_hitech
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Fezziwig wrote:All we can do is grant leases to foreigners who MAY drill sometime in the future at their convenience, which is not expected to be before 20 years, and the price reduction will be NEGLIGIBLE.
Since it's speculators that are driving the prive up simply awarding drilling contracts COULD have a HUGE impact on prices. But, controlling the speculators would be a more direct, and better, approach.
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mrjimboalaska
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We can bring new oil and refineries on MUCH quicker than your pipe dream of electric cars......
DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW, PAY LESS!
AND SCREW THE GREENIES!(just had to make your blood boil)
ALASKANS FOR GLOBAL WARMING, especially since Alaska is in the coldest year on RECORD! POLAR BEARS MAKE NICE RUGS!
POTOMAC PARTY ANYONE!
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topflite51
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As I said before Fuzzi, I think you are smoking some of the Speakers special stash.
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mrjimboalaska
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Well,
Next to my "W" sticker on the truck is also a sticker that reads "NUKE THE GAY WHALES" that should about cover it.
Have fun in Never Never Land.....in your "Green World without Oil".
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DanHouck
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Quote:Since it's speculators that are driving the prive up simply awarding drilling contracts COULD have a HUGE impact on prices. But, controlling the speculators would be a more direct, and better, approach.
WRONG on both counts. Speculators ONLY can control prices when supply is too close to demand. And, pray tell, how do you plan on controlling off shore oil markets?
You must be getting your grasp of the oil market from those ignoramuses in Congress. You know, the same people who wanted to sue the Saudis.
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AO_hitech
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DanHouck wrote:WRONG on both counts. Speculators ONLY can control prices when supply is too close to demand. And, pray tell, how do you plan on controlling off shore oil markets?
No sir, you are wrong. Everything fits too well to be mere coincidence. There is no other reason for the recent surge, and the recent changes in the commodity trading rules make it far easier for speculators. I just don’t believe in that many coincidences.
My post from Senator Boxer (even thou I am not a fan of hers) outlines it fairly well, including how to control the London trading.
You don’t mention in your post was the cause of the recent doubling of the price is caused from. It can’t be supply and demand as supply Is up slightly and demand is down slightly.
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Fezziwig
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AO_hitech wrote:
My post from Senator Boxer (even thou I am not a fan of hers) outlines it fairly well, including how to control the London trading.
Did you post Boxers post somewhere? I'd like to read it.
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You don’t mention in your post was the cause of the recent doubling of the price is caused from. It can’t be supply and demand as supply Is up slightly and demand is down slightly.
'supply and demand' is not a deterministic relationship. Each of 'supply' and 'demand' have separate price/unit relations and the Equilibrium Point is what the market seeks. Many factors can shift the curves or change their slopes.
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jimbo says:
"We can bring new oil and refineries on MUCH quicker than your pipe dream of electric cars......"
Who? "We", the USA, don't own any oil drilling companies. How can "we" bring in any oil? "We" don't even pay drilling companies to drill oil.
I know you socialists like to "Nationalize Oil", is that what you have in mind?
Talking about electric cars, did you see the Charlie Rose interview last night with Rick Wagoner, Bob Lutz and Bob Boniface? GM is going to have that "Volt" in the showrooms in Fall '09.
Good 'ol American free enterprise. I know you reds hate it, but that's a lot sooner than you commies can deliver more oil even if you Nationalize the oil companies!
Have you ever driven an electric car? What a thrill! Fast and quiet. Try it, you'll like it.
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Fezziwig wrote:jimbo says:
"We can bring new oil and refineries on MUCH quicker than your pipe dream of electric cars......"
Who? "We", the USA, don't own any oil drilling companies. How can "we" bring in any oil? "We" don't even pay drilling companies to drill oil.
I know you socialists like to "Nationalize Oil", is that what you have in mind?
Talking about electric cars, did you see the Charlie Rose interview last night with Rick Wagoner, Bob Lutz and Bob Boniface? GM is going to have that "Volt" in the showrooms in Fall '09.
Good 'ol American free enterprise. I know you reds hate it, but that's a lot sooner than you commies can deliver more oil even if you Nationalize the oil companies!
Have you ever driven an electric car? What a thrill! Fast and quiet. Try it, you'll like it.
Fezz, You are so caught up in the foreign companies drilling here or the government drilling. Come on, is that all you got?
Who cares who owns the rig. You seem to think that NO American-owned companies will benefit from drilling here. This exposes you for what you are: a NIMBY, where you think your backyard is our whole country.
Your argument against drilling here is that U.S. companies wont even be the drillers.
Who is going to build the rigs? Who is going to place them? Who is going to build pipelines? Who is going to truck the material to the fields? Who is going to truck the product to refineries and market? Are they going to import 4x4 trucks to service the wells? Are they going to buy from the big three? Are these companies going to buy their big iron overseas. The list can go on and on.
In the case of the OCS, you may have more of a point, but come on, NO American companies? That's a pretty bold statement. Let's say that somehow, no American companies get involved. Where's all that crude going to go? None of it is going to go into the Miss. Delta and be processed? No Americans are going to be put to work there. No U.S. subcontractors will work on the rigs? Give me a break.
Right now, most of those dollars are sent overseas.
I repeat from a previous post: Even if the price doesn't drop one red cent, most of the dollars will stay HERE rather than going off shore.
Americans WILL be put to work, drilling for oil. What's wrong with that when we now have $700,000,000 (according to T. B. Pickens) being sucked out of the U.S. economy each year.
I drive a partial-electric car right now (hybrid). It wont run very far on electric, but does stretch our gas dollars.
Does GM have the batteries yet? I hope they do.
Some Americans might be able to benefit from electric. It would be a stretch for our family. We have quite a few days where we need 200 miles before our car is back in the garage. I’m sure most American families are in the same boat as us. Our migration to the suburbs doesn’t lend itself well to the electric vehicle. Some will be able to use one now, and as the technology progresses, more may be able to switch. But, fall of 2009 is NOT the magic bullet. (more of a niche) Let’s wait and see the true-life capabilities of the Volt.
So, until the magic bullet is invented, according to you, we keep sending hundreds of billions of U.S. dollars to other economies. Not very pro-American if you ask me, and you’re the one accusing us, pro-drillers, of being socialists and commies?
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