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Rope

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Posted: 07/08/08 05:43pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We came across this nice find in Las Vegas and took a ride out to have a closer look. Drove it 1500 miles home are are pleased so far. Cant wait to get it under the rig and see how it feels.







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Posted: 07/08/08 06:10pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Looking good. That's what I want when I grow up.


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Posted: 07/08/08 06:14pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cool

Only thing is....I would want my fifth wheel/king pin connection right over the rear axle. This may not be possible with the extended length of the hauler bed on your truck.


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Congrats Rope, and leave that hitch as far back as you can get it! MDT's and HDT's with their much heavier front ends are not affected by front axle unloading like the P/U's, in fact, it's desireable to get as much weight behind the rear axle (typically 36" or further on a class 8 with sleeper) to HELP unload the front axle of these rigs. With full tanks and cabinets you will very likely have upwards of 9000#'s over the front axle so having even a fairly heayy pinweight of say 4000#'s out the rear will only help to ease the weight over that front end. You will have an easier time of pulling the trailer as well with the hitch to the rear as the trailer will follow a wider path around corners and will respond quicker when backing up.

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Posted: 07/08/08 07:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I guess I just don't like getting seasick.

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Engineer9860 wrote:

Cool

Only thing is....I would want my fifth wheel/king pin connection right over the rear axle. This may not be possible with the extended length of the hauler bed on your truck.



HOLY COW, not to sound crass, but WHY??????????????????


There is certainly not going to be an issue, with unsprung weight, from the pin weight ( I believe you could put a HOUSE, the wicked witch, and Toto on that hitch, and still not budge the front end up !!!!!!!!!!!!!)



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Gotta love it, when it double posts(all by itself)

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Thanks guys for all the views. We were going to try the load back as far as possible. Not knowing any more about theses then I do now I was thinking that we need to try to take as much off the front as possible. With 250 gal of fuel tanks sitting forward seems that would put a lot of weight on the front. I know that takes a lot of weight out of the wallet. We were able to get the truck but had to get a loan to fill the tanks.
The old girl is in good shape for what we have into it. Going to tear out the sleeper area and redo all that then look forward to heading out in the early fall.

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I guess my experiences come from 1,000,000mi driving class 8s OTR. My guess is that I have driven more miles in a class 8 than almost anybody here, and believe me, you want that pivot point over the axle, and weight transfer has little to do with why.

Even with the fifth wheel set over the rear axle (split between the two on a tandem) it is possible to get the front axle to hop (like riding waves in a boat) on a class 8.

GEEZ but then again what do I know, I only have experience on my side.

On second thought.........Ignore my posts, forget that I posted in this thread, do what ever you want, I'll do what I want, and don't come crying to me when it all goes wrong, because I'll have no sympathy.

You people REALLY have nothing to do if it is time to argue about 5th wheel location.

To the O.P........ I still think you have a cool set up.

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Engineer9860:

Hop over to the SKP`s HDT forum and you will soon learn the difference in a commercial application vs. recreational trailers.

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