BWhite
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IT's all the same !
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Leewhiz
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In the Albany, NY area there are only 3 distributors of fuel anymore. If you ask any trucker the that transports fuel for the various gas stations, you'll find that they are generally delivering the gas that is the cheapest that day. The game for gas stations is to make the most profit, so to do so that order from whoever is the cheapest. The only gas station in the Albany area that consistently get gas from the same terminal is Hess. Because they now almost own all of there own stations.
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DevinPhilips
Cloud 10, Pangea
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My friend drives a fuel delivery truck.
It is the same gas, just different additives added for different brand stations.
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Ames
South Central Florida
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I spoke at length to an ex employee of a Texas refinery that "cracked" gas for several brands to their specifications. Seems they made their best fuel for Hess. Local Shell distributor sells Hess Diesel because it is the best they have found and yes they sell it under the Shell name. Fuel is only as good as the fuel retailer wants it to be. Just like pumping different octane from one hose at a station it does vary in quality by manufacturer or brand.
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JCWWBT
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No problems for us. 
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wny_pat
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AndyAmes wrote:There are different qualities of gasoline out there. I have a client that inspects fuel in the state of Florida. Whatever or wherever that fuel comes from is not always from the same gas pipeline.
My client specifically stated that when he inspects Different gas stations there is a quality difference. Based on his inspections, which include testing the fuel and checking the filtration system, Hess and Amoco have some of the cleanest fuels. While the fuels sold at the Wal-Mart and Sams locations are of a lesser grade or filtration setup before delivery.
He also stated that One reason is Amoco and Hess require their fuel to be refined or filtered more before delivery than other comapnies.
Is it worth saving on the fuel side and pay for it by replacing the fuel filter in your vehicle? This is a personal preference and one's view to cost and benefit.
The only "grade" gas is sold by is octane. 86 and below being lower than regular, 87 being regular, 89 being midgrade, and 91 to 93 being premium. I can tell you that there is not a refiner in this country that will chance putting out a octane product lower than what they state at the pumps. If you buy 89 octane at the pumps, it will be at least one point higher than 89 octane.
As to refined more or filtered more. Not on the Petroleum Exchange system, where I have a station in your refinery area and you have a station in my refinery area, so we trade products. I have hauled branded gas from a independant refinery. The only difference is the additives. And the additives are very small amounts, like 1 gallon or even less additive to 9000 gasoline. And usually diesel fuel has no branded additives. I think Union 76 was the last branded diesel.
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wny_pat
Western NYS
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Ames wrote:Local Shell distributor sells Hess Diesel because it is the best they have found and yes they sell it under the Shell name. Where do you folks find this stuff? If that Shell distributor is doing so, he is subject to a very high federal fine. It is federal law that if the pump says Shell, the gas must be branded Shell gasoline. He can not sell Hess gas thru it. And if Shell caught him doing this, he would lose his distributorship.
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AndyAmes
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I do not remember stating anything about octane level.
Information that I have used to respond to this thread come from a petroleum jobber that owned two different fuel substations, a State fuel inspector, 3 different brand gas station owners, a fuel truck driver, and a client that has gas wells in Texas.
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Jim & Joan
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True, additives help to clean your engine, but what the companies don't tell you is that all gas does so. Since 1994 the government has required that detergents be added to all gasoline to help prevent fuel injectors from clogging. State and local regulators keep a close watch to make sure those standards are met; in Florida inspectors checked 45,000 samples last year to ensure the state's gas supply was up to snuff, and 99% of the time it was. "There's little difference between brand-name gas and any other," says AAA spokesperson Geoff Sundstrom.
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jerseyjim
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Funny how some forget: the gas "shortages" of 1973 and 1979...at least in NYC where one had to wait on line for 2 hours for 2 bucks (at the time 2 bucks = 4 gallons)...and that's when I (at least) found that ANY brand gasoline burned just fine. Major to Mom & Pop brands...motor started, ran and shut off just fine...mpg was the same.
That was when folks would say stuff like : I use only MOBIL (or Esso or Gulf, or whatever)....the car runs better on that...and here, in this thread we seem to be seeing the same thing. The occasional "bad" tank (water, for instance) is the individual gas station: not the brand.
Gas is gas is gas. People even pay extra for "premium" when "regular" is all the motor calls for. Fine. Their money. But gas is gas is gas.
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