JIMNLIN
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one more time the 3500 DRW has a 9350 RAWR. The 3500 SRW has a 6400 RAWR. RAWR/FAWR/tire caps is what carries the load not GVWR. The 3500 DRW has 2950 more pounds of payload capacity. Actual truck weights may be more or less according to how its configured
The 3500 DRW trucks rear when empty weighs approx 3500 lbs which leaves 5850 lb for a payload. The 3500 SRW trucks rear when empty weighs approx 3000 lbs which leaves 3400 lbs for a payload. When figuring payloads actual weight numbers are required not advertising brochure numbers.
Dodge truck brochure figures for a payload show a 3500 DRW with 5100 lbs. The same truck brochure shows the 3500 SRW at 2820 lbs. The figures in the truck brochure is for a different configured truck than you have/had hense that's why their called advertising figures. I don't know anyone that figures their actual truck weigh by using a truck brochure. DOT officer or a weights trained LEO would probably get a good chuckle if the person he stopped and was weighing said "according to the truck brochure"........... . That's the reason for those GVWR/FAWR/RAWR numbers on our door tags. That keeps it plain and simple for the operator and LEO to figure weights.
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marty649
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dhamblet wrote:surveyorjp wrote:dhamblet wrote:
Huh? SRW has greater load capacity than DRW by only a few hundred pounds, IIRC less than 500# - basicly the added weight of the fender flares, wheels, and tires takes away some of the Dually's load capacity. A 3500 is a 3500 regardless of how many wheels it has.
I am pretty sure this isn't right. Somebody provide some links please to prove or disprove this claim. I can't believe a DRW would have less capacity than a SRW.
Reason I know this is I recently bought 2 Dodge 3500 CTDs, a 2005 SRW 4wd QC, SWB, Laramie (which I sold a year later) and a 2006 SRW 4wd QC, LWB which I still drive. You want proof? look it up on the Dodge website yourself, I did it twice and I'm not interested in researching it again. The ONLY thing a DRW gains you is a little stability and the peace of mind that if you blow a rear tire theres another to carry the load until you pull over. Plus when you need tires you get to buy 6, not 4.
Dodge website confirms it! SRW Option 10,100# GVWR, DRW 11,000# GVWR.
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wasting your time asking on here... USUALLY you will hear to get what a person is driving.... As far as the newest diesels out there, I think they are all pretty good.... Drive all, see what appeals to you.. I think any brand right now are willing to give good deals... Put all the brands against each other, see who gives you the best...
One guy will say for has better this and the next guy disagrees..we all have different opinions as to looks , comfort and such.
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dhamblet
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OK for you DRW fans. Here is the info I saved on my 2006 Ram. This is from the "Maximum Towing Capacities" chart in the 2006 Dodge Ram sales brochure.
3500 QC 4x4 LB SRW -- 15,750#
3500 QC 4x4 LB DRW -- 15,400#
Maximum Payload
3500 QC 4x4 LB DRW/SRW -- 4770#
DOn't know how to post pictures here or I would post the page I am referencing.
Maybe Ford and Chevy install heavier axles in their DRW, I don't know. But it appears Dodge uses the same axle SRW or DRW (at least they did in 2006) and the added weight of the DRW setup takes away from the official carrying/towing capacity of the DOdge.
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surveyorjp
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dhamblet wrote:surveyorjp wrote:dhamblet wrote:
Huh? SRW has greater load capacity than DRW by only a few hundred pounds, IIRC less than 500# - basicly the added weight of the fender flares, wheels, and tires takes away some of the Dually's load capacity. A 3500 is a 3500 regardless of how many wheels it has.
I am pretty sure this isn't right. Somebody provide some links please to prove or disprove this claim. I can't believe a DRW would have less capacity than a SRW.
Reason I know this is I recently bought 2 Dodge 3500 CTDs, a 2005 SRW 4wd QC, SWB, Laramie (which I sold a year later) and a 2006 SRW 4wd QC, LWB which I still drive. You want proof? look it up on the Dodge website yourself, I did it twice and I'm not interested in researching it again. The ONLY thing a DRW gains you is a little stability and the peace of mind that if you blow a rear tire theres another to carry the load until you pull over. Plus when you need tires you get to buy 6, not 4.
According to the others that HAVE looked it up, you are incorrect. It would make no sense to offer a DRW 3500 if it DECREASED the actual load carrying capability. Why don't you see many SRW 3500 trucks with dump beds installed? Reason is, DRW trucks can haul more and are rated to haul more.
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If you start to look around a construction site, you will find the most economical trucks and vans that the owners could find.
The last contractor that I worked for had a large fleet of Ford vans and one small Toyota dually "1" ton flatbed truck to bring out bulky materials.
When I worked for a large city, the mechanics complained about needing to change the bushings on the front of Ford trucks at around 75,000 miles. GM's fromt suspension did not require as much maintenance. But the old trucks had that famous 6.2L diesel engine that seems to fail at 65,000 miles with cracked heads.
Also check the GM and Chevy seperately. I heard that with a GMC truck, the items under the hood are easier to work on, but they might have changed that by now, and everything is equally difficult to get to now.
I liked the air conditioner in the GM trucks. You could adjust it so that not all the cold air comes out the dash, you can direct a portion of the cold air towards your feet, so the heat from the floorboards does not overheat you.
Yes I have heard of peple buying the Dodge just because it has the best motor. But I think that Izusu makes many more diesel engines than Cummins each year, and they provided a lot more of the engineering than GM. I was afraid that GM's bean counters would have a detromental effect on the 6.6L engine, but after some bugs where worked out, it has become a very reliable engine.
I liked the styling of the Dodge when the update came out 10 or 12 years ago.
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marty649
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dhamblet wrote:
Maximum Payload
3500 QC 4x4 LB DRW/SRW -- 4770#
Dodge never has nor never will have the same payload capacity on SRW and DRW, and you'll never find anything to prove otherwise, posting false data won't help your cause.
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Mayoman
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Thanks for all the replies. I didn't really phrase my original post correctly because I really didn't expect a consensus "best" truck. But what I got in the replies was what I was looking for. The pros and cons of payload, stability, interior, towing capacity. These are what I am basing my decision upon. As I stated for me, the GMC Duramax/Allison combination seems to be the best powerplant match, but I like the Ford interior the best. In the end will probably go with the GMC dually, seems to fit my needs better if it comes in at the best price. Again thanks for all the replies and the spirited discussions, that's what makes a good thread especially for us newbies. Most of you have been doing this for several years and experience is worth a library of books.
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Mayoman:
I checked out all three extensively and I ended up with a Dodge. If you are towing heavy, my humble opinion is the Dodge is the best. Its new 6 speed tranny is equal to the allison.
My brother has a 2007 Dodge CTD Manual tranny. His work truck is the new allison/duramax and he has driven my new MegaCab extensively because we camp together and he likes the new Dodge tranny better than the Chevy.
Mostly he doesn't like the hesitation in his work allison going around corners and he likes the shifting pattern empty on the Dodge much better . As for me I love the new tranny and with the EB which the other two do not have - and it is amazing towing heavy - I think Dodge is the most capable tow vehicle out there right now.
I worked on buying a Chevy for a year because I was trading in an avalanche. I could have bought a Ford for the same price and would have if the cab removal wasn't an issue. So I bought a Dodge. I liked the ride better on the Chevy, I like the ca design better on the Ford and I liked the Mega Cab for room for sure. Good Luck
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Thanks Mike, definitely have liked my 97 Ram 2500 CDT for the last 11 years. Have not had one problems with it the whole time. Still only 85,000 miles. Just put new set of Michelins on it (2nd set in 11 years) and ready for another 100k. Now just seems to be a buyer's market for big trucks.
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