revrnd
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My brother was saying that BC requires a person towing a RV to have a endorsement on their licence. How does this work if you're from out of the province?
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wilber1
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If you tow over 4600 kilos you need an endorsement but that only applies to BC licensed drivers. Doesn't apply to out of province drivers but doesn't Ontario have the same regulation?
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balvert
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Ontario requires a Class A drivers license if the trailer (axle weight) exceeds 4600 kilos or 10,141 pounds. See Ontario License Info for RVrs. Ontario license requirments apply to all Ontario drivers no matter where they drive. A BC driver would need to adhere to BC requirments while in Ontario.
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Gruffy
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Manitoba has a restriction over 4600 kilos as well. But the same agency sells the insurance and the drivers licence there....
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revrnd
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This is what my combination would fall into:
"Class "G" if the truck is registered for and the combination weighs 11,000 kgs (24,250 lbs) or less."
So I guess I'd be OK.
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JMTTS
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Check out the following SITE.. Check out Class A with an R restriction (For people pulling Trailers and 5th wheels with GVWR ratings of over 4600KG).
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well at least I dont have to worry about the RV restriction in BC, as I hold a Class 1 in BC.
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Hamops
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If your Ontario "G" license covers the requirement when pulling a trailer in Ontario then it meets the BC requirements.
An Ontario "G" licence is good for a trailer weighing less than 4600KG. The 4600KG is the axle weight of the trailer when it's coupled to the tow vehicle. GVWR of the trailer has nothing to with the type of drivers licence required. To ensure that you are legal, take your tow vehicle and trailer to a CAT scale and weigh it. If the trailer axles weigh less than 4600KG then a Ontario Class "G" Drivers License meets the requirement.
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Betsy II
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Hamops, can you clarify please.
If the towed vehicle (5th wheel) was disconnected on the scale and weighed, is it not this weight that is referred to in the regulations?
The reason I ask is because it does not say the axle weight of the towed vehicle.
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Roy
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Hamops
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Betsy II wrote:Hamops, can you clarify please.
If the towed vehicle (5th wheel) was disconnected on the scale and weighed, is it not this weight that is referred to in the regulations?
The reason I ask is because it does not say the axle weight of the towed vehicle.
thanks,
Roy
The answer is No.
The Ministry of Transportion in Ontario only looks at the axle weight of the towed vehicle impressed on the road surface with the towed vehicle connected to the tow vehicle.
In my case, I weighed my truck first with the following results. The steer axle = 1790Kg (3945#) , the drive axle = 1430Kg (3152#), Gross weight = 3220Kg (7097#)
Then I weighed the trailer hitched to the truck with the following results. The steer axle = 1730Kg (3813#), Drive axle =2250Kg (4959#) and the trailer axle = 3750Kg (8265#) Gross weight = 7730Kg (17037#)
The kingpin weight is 2250-1430 = 820Kg (1807#)(NB: The kingpin weight becomes part of the truck axle weight and is used to for licensing the truck.)
The gross weight of the trailer is 3750 + 820= 4570Kg (10073#)
The Ontario MOT took these weights and reviewed them for me and made a determination that since the axle weight of the trailer was 3750Kg, and under the 4600Kg rule, a Class G license will meet the requirement.
I've attached the link to the MTO. It has the information that tells you that trailer weight is the weight that the trailer axles press on the road.
Ministry of Transportation - Ontario
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