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houtrz

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I'm sure you didn't see what I"m going to discribe but someone on here posted a video about a VW Bug with a 5th wheel attached to the roof and was towing a small 5er. The car could spin 360 around the king pin making it turn on a dime. Pretty neat but SMALL

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houtrz wrote:

I'm sure you didn't see what I"m going to discribe but someone on here posted a video about a VW Bug with a 5th wheel attached to the roof and was towing a small 5er. The car could spin 360 around the king pin making it turn on a dime. Pretty neat but SMALL


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I had to laugh at all the guesses regarding the origin of the fifth wheel. I believe that the current hitch (both RV and heavy truck) is a decendant of a fifth wheel hitch designed by Glenn Curtiss, the famous Aircraft genius. In the Curtiss Museum (Hammondsport, NY) there is a vehicle with his hitch built into the trunk area of a 1920s era car. The hitch is literally secured in the hub of a wooden spoked wheel with a tire. The whole assembly is boxed into a frame. Curtiss designed this for manueverablity when operating large trucks in city traffic, and for his extremely advanced, aircraft grade, fifth wheel RVs. I have been to the Museum many times. However all this info. is from memory, and worth exactly what you paid for it. Regarding the original post, (aluminum siding, fiberglass front) my money is on an older Shadow Cruiser fifth, which would be exactly as described. IIRC the front came to a sharp horizontal point with "Shadow Cruiser" written in bold letters above the front windows. It looked very futuristic for its day, very aerodynamic. Unlike the Scamp that looks like a fiberglass Mantatee being towed to a kiddie park.

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Soren: You have described a hitch that was made right into the 30's that consisted of a clamping device that held the wheel into/onto the back of some of the coupe cars of the period that allowed for another device mounted on a trailer to fasten to the center of the wheel which then allowed for shock loads to be cushioned by the air in that tire. Kinda neat, saw one in the paddock at the Hershey antique car rally in the 70's that was actually still being driven towing a trailer and shown.


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soren wrote:

Regarding the original post, (aluminum siding, fiberglass front) my money is on an older Shadow Cruiser fifth, which would be exactly as described. IIRC the front came to a sharp horizontal point with "Shadow Cruiser" written in bold letters above the front windows. It looked very futuristic for its day, very aerodynamic. Unlike the Scamp that looks like a fiberglass Mantatee being towed to a kiddie park.

Nope, it definitely wasn't a Shadow Cruiser, there were no striking lines on it like that. It was very bulbous, just like the Scamp. At a quick glance, it looked like a different material on the bottom half, but I could've been mistaken as I only had a quick glance of it. It was probably a combination of the graphics and the horizontal belt line on the Scamp.


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Lance made a small 5th wheel. I saw one a few years back.
Award made a small 5th wheel -- my FIL saw one on the production
floor a few years back.

The 5th wheel attachment for automobiles was around in the 1970s.
The previous owner of my house, John Jackson, had one on an early
1970s Cadillac.


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Airstream made a small 5er they called an "Argosy". Maybe you saw one of those. It had a white top.
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