seems to me that if you are not hooked up in a campground, all grey water still has to go to that one tank to mix with "stuff". I wouldn't call that excellent.
bumpy
What difference does it make if the black and grey are mixed? You're not going to use the grey water to wash your toad (are you?).
because it is easier and cleaner to dump the grey. actually some folks actually dump it out on their garden, etc. and I prefer to do that without the extra fertilizer in it. and I would never use a blue tote for black water but I would for grey.
and I find it much more convenient to dump the grey tank thru a garden hose, which would be difficult if it had "stuff" in it. with that arrangement I can just leave my grey tank open all the time when hooked up.
bumpy
OP said that he has to pump shower water into tank. I'm just curious how you keep that pump from getting all gunked up with hair and other shower crud?
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Bumpyroad wrote: Companies do plumb the shower or the bathroom sink to the black tank for two reasons, one to get adequate water into it, and secondly because in general the grey tank fills up first. I would not consider it to be a mistake or defect myself.
bumpy
Exactly right, and those that say it's a cheap way out should consider the cost of the pump and wiring, that's not cheap and may even be more expensive.
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Pirate wrote: OP said that he has to pump shower water into tank. I'm just curious how you keep that pump from getting all gunked up with hair and other shower crud?
The pump is located in a compartment in a storage bin. We have to clean the shower drain on the shower floor itself each time we use the shower if anything gets caught in the screen. And then about every 3-4 trips, I clean the filter on the pump itself. That part is easy, you just simply unscrew a little plastic cap, take off the filter, clean it out and put in back on. Takes less than 2 minutes. Not a problem.
Bumpyroad wrote: Companies do plumb the shower or the bathroom sink to the black tank for two reasons, one to get adequate water into it, and secondly because in general the grey tank fills up first. I would not consider it to be a mistake or defect myself.
bumpy
Exactly right, and those that say it's a cheap way out should consider the cost of the pump and wiring, that's not cheap and may even be more expensive.
kmb1966 wrote: From the factory, our Itasca Suncruiser's shower has dumped/pumped into the BLACK holding tank. It is a roll-in type shower, and has no p-trap, but has a small pump located in a storage bin that pumps the water from the shower drain into the holding tank. The problem was the factory connected the hose from the shower pump to the BLACK tank. As a result, the black tank of course fills up quickly, having to dump frequently, using alot of "blue packets", and very little gray water to dump secondly after the black dumps. In addition, my gray tank is larger than the black. I checked with Winnebago, and yes indeed they decided to go to the black tank intentionally for my serial # for reasons unknown, but most probably because it was more difficult to go to the gray tank (according to Winnebago). I checked with my dealer on changing this design and got a "thousand yard stare" from the dealer. Brought it to an independent RV repair dealer that has done good work for me in the past, and he put a handy 2-way valve on with another hose going to the gray tank for only $250 bucks. Now the shower can go to the gray tank, or with the turn of the valve, go back to the Black tank (which I doubt I will ever do again!). Nice to have the black tank for the toilet only, and the gray tank for the shower/sinks.
My F-I-L's 1975 Winnebago's bathroom sink dumps into the black as well.
kmb1966 wrote: From the factory, our Itasca Suncruiser's shower has dumped/pumped into the BLACK holding tank. It is a roll-in type shower, and has no p-trap, but has a small pump located in a storage bin that pumps the water from the shower drain into the holding tank. The problem was the factory connected the hose from the shower pump to the BLACK tank. As a result, the black tank of course fills up quickly, having to dump frequently, using alot of "blue packets", and very little gray water to dump secondly after the black dumps. In addition, my gray tank is larger than the black. I checked with Winnebago, and yes indeed they decided to go to the black tank intentionally for my serial # for reasons unknown, but most probably because it was more difficult to go to the gray tank (according to Winnebago). I checked with my dealer on changing this design and got a "thousand yard stare" from the dealer. Brought it to an independent RV repair dealer that has done good work for me in the past, and he put a handy 2-way valve on with another hose going to the gray tank for only $250 bucks. Now the shower can go to the gray tank, or with the turn of the valve, go back to the Black tank (which I doubt I will ever do again!). Nice to have the black tank for the toilet only, and the gray tank for the shower/sinks.
My F-I-L's 1975 Winnebago's bathroom sink dumps into the black as well.
That sounds "OK" to me. The amount of water going through the sink is not near as much as the shower itself. Your setup would have been fine for me, but not the shower. no way on the shower.
GerryB54 wrote: In my past Four Winds RVs, they did plumb the bathroom sink to flow into the black water tank.....I wouldn't care for a shower plumbed to the black water tank, unless it was smart enough to maybe fill the black water tank to 3/4 and then switch to the gray water tank!....!
I'm not sure how mine doesn't come up the shower drain if you overfilled the black tank either but it does NOT. I have had the black tank up to the tippy top and the shower must some how have an extra overflow valve somewhere to prevent it from dumping into the black at 'some point' and flow to the gray when the black is full. The underside is all enclosed so you can't crawl under and see how they do it without dropping down the whole thing.
I was a bit upset that my shower and sink dump into the black because I do have to watch how long I stay in the shower when dry camping but quite honestly after reading all the forum posts from RV'ers problems with their black tanks either stinking, sticking and buying all the gadgets to flush, chew, spit and macerate poop for it to work properly.....I'm glad my shower dumps into the black because I have NEVER had ANY problems with my black tank.
Which just goes to prove you don't need all those extra toys to dump a black tank, just make sure you put enough water in there when you use it. My shower gray water takes care of that and I don't have to use water from my fresh tank flushing the toilet to obtain it.
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I'm confusd.
.....I'm glad my shower dumps into the black because I have NEVER had ANY problems with my black tank.
