Elliot
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Much has been posted on the CC veranda coaches. But did you see the new FMCA magazine? They tested the unit and the actual weights were Front Axle 16420 lbs Rear Axle 19460lbs and Tag at 8460lbs. Now here is the kicker The GCWR from CC are Front 16600 lbs or effectivly 140 pounds of carry capacity, rear 20,000lbs or 540lbs of carry capacity, the tag has a 11000 weight so you have 2540lbs of carry capacity. In reality the coach will be overloaded with minimal storage items. What were they thinking with only 140lbs, and 540lbs respectivly available. The coach lists for 596,770. Come on for a half a million you should get some decent carry capacity.
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All that aside, who in the heck really needs to be in your neighbors space, anyway ? I thought it was a wierd idea to begin with. Quality control would be higher on my list. Robbie
Elliot wrote:Much has been posted on the CC veranda coaches. But did you see the new FMCA magazine? They tested the unit and the actual weights were Front Axle 16420 lbs Rear Axle 19460lbs and Tag at 8460lbs. Now here is the kicker The GCWR from CC are Front 16600 lbs or effectivly 140 pounds of carry capacity, rear 20,000lbs or 540lbs of carry capacity, the tag has a 11000 weight so you have 2540lbs of carry capacity. In reality the coach will be overloaded with minimal storage items. What were they thinking with only 140lbs, and 540lbs respectivly available. The coach lists for 596,770. Come on for a half a million you should get some decent carry capacity.
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I can't imagine 16420 on a front axle. That is really heavy, are they running duplex tires up front?
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Elliot wrote:Much has been posted on the CC veranda coaches. But did you see the new FMCA magazine? They tested the unit and the actual weights were Front Axle 16420 lbs Rear Axle 19460lbs and Tag at 8460lbs. Now here is the kicker The GCWR from CC are Front 16600 lbs or effectivly 140 pounds of carry capacity, rear 20,000lbs or 540lbs of carry capacity, the tag has a 11000 weight so you have 2540lbs of carry capacity. In reality the coach will be overloaded with minimal storage items. What were they thinking with only 140lbs, and 540lbs respectivly available. The coach lists for 596,770. Come on for a half a million you should get some decent carry capacity.
Elliot: The vast majority of people ( at least 96-97 %) that have enough $$ to buy such a rig never look at those limits. Its quite evident from some of the posters right on this BB that have shelled out 400-450K PLUS and were overloaded right from the get-go.
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Elliott, after going in a couple of them I would be more worried about side to side distribution as well. You have a huge expanse with nothing but a wall. The mechanism does not add more weight than a a slide either. It is just a kitchen forward design or they have moved the whole seating space forward a bit and the kitchen behind it in the two I was in. It is an interesting idea for a coach and for the right people will work out well. In a crowded campground it will not work as well but if you are in one that has dirt outside that means no rug and pets and small kids (grandkids) can go outside and still be contained. I liked the idea but you give up a bunch for it in inside usable space as the sliding door is about 6 inches inside the unit.
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I kinda like the idea, but not the price. It would be nice to have a deck off the kitchen in my coach. Just open the slider and bring the outside in.
I also think that 3,080 pounds of payload after full fuel, water, 2 passengers and gear sounds sufficient. Oh well, it doesn't really matter since I couldn't afford one of those anyway.
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Elliot
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Horizon you missed the point 140lbs of front carry weight means it will be overloaded as soon as you put anything in it. 3080 is all tag axle which will be of little use.
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Elliot,
I agree that 140 lbs after adding passengers is not much at all. I forgot about it having the front kitchen. It wouldn't be hard to load up the fridge and kitchen with that much weight plus the effect of loading your forward storage bays also adding to the front axle load.
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With only 140 pounds of capacity on the front axle, I would BET BIG BUCKS that one side is already overloaded before you add a single can of soup to the pantry.
Very unlikely that with side weights over 8,000 pounds that they are within 140 pounds of each other.
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Anyone in Calif. have a Vehicle Code?. I thought the max front axle weight was well under 16420. My Scepter has the larger 295.80 R 22.5 tires and their carrying capacity is only 7830/15660. I think Wolf is right on, one lb. of apples in the refer and your overwieght on one side of the front. You could put a tripple hitch receiver on the back,build a big platform, put all you heavy stuff on the platform, which would actually unload the front axle, and you will be all set.!
Did anyone who has seen the coach notice what tires they are running in front?
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