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pfunk, myself and a few others with busses like yours have gone to larger tires.I too had 255's on our 00 Endeavor and had a zipper type type blowout in Georgia on a Sunday afternoon.
Finding road service and a tire was like looking for knees on a chicken!
Got back home and bought 275/80's 16 ply after a lot of research and the difference in handling and ride was unbelievably better. XZA 1's on the rear ,XZA2's on the steer.
That was in 03, so far so good, and I'm knockin on wood.
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pfunk
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thats over an inch taller, did you notice a change in power or speed
i like the idea of a taller tire, but did the added rubber on the road take away mileage
thanks for the info
EDIT, I noticed costco is carrying rv tires now
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hohenwald48
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You say your front weighs 10410, the chart says your front tire capacity @105 PSI is 10300. That's 110 pounds OVERWEIGHT.
You say your rear weighs 17000, the chart says your rear tire capacity @90 PSI is 16820. That's 180 pounds OVERWEIGHT.
Now, just how is the manufacturer responsible for you being OVERWEIGHT?
Also, a 38 Endeavor carrying 5,000 extra pounds is most likely overweight for the chassis in addition to being overweight for the tires.
Until you actually weigh the coach, as normally loaded, you can only guess.
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pfunk
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And WRONG
255/80R22.5 LRG XRV®, XZE®
LBS Single 5205 LBS at 110 PSI
4805 LBS at 110 PSI
IF YOU ARE RUNNING GVW. the tires are sized to the RV
The weight was 4-5Klbs UNDER GVW according to the unladen weight of the coach how many times does someone have to say it, please read. Its not even a concern that the coach was even close to Gross
90 gall fuel = 540 lbs
100 gall water = 800 lbs
all my stuff including tools, compressor and luggage = 1000lbs (probably less then 1/2 that)
kids me and wife = 450lbs
say 3000 lbs way over estimated
and even if I was 200lbs overweight, will that 200 lbs blowout a side wall in a truck tire,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,come on, the manufacturer has a tolerance and the tire ratings add up to those tolerances and I was WELL within that
EDIT and I can Guess weight WITHIN A THOUSAND POUNDS
do you know the specs of my chassis better then Holiday Rambler? please inform, Im all ears
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Deen
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QUIT ARGUING and WEIGH the rig as loaded, everything you're arguing about is like pixxing into the wind until you have ACTUAL 4 "corner" weights and the age of the tires.
You came here badmouthing Michelin, but you don't have any idea the age of the tires, whether they are overloaded or how they were treated before you bought the rig. You CAN'T guess the actual weight of the rig, you need to weigh it and not just axle weights, you need four "corner" weights.
Thumping a tire doens't work either, one of the trucker rags did a test and found very, very few professional drivers could tell a dangerously low tire (20% low) from a properly filled tire.
I also question your statement that you're rig can tow 10,000#'s. Where did you verify that?
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I thought you said the rears were inflated to 90 PSI. Which is it, 110 or 90? Maybe you need to go thump them again.
Then you speak of GVW for the front axle. I thought that would be GAWR.
Everything I said was based on numbers and information you provided.
You know, folks on here are just trying to help you out but we can't seem to get any sensible information from you. If you want help, we would be glad to do what we can. If you already know everything then why did you ask a question?
And, I'm done here.
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pfunk
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Deen wrote:QUIT ARGUING and WEIGH the rig as loaded, everything you're arguing about is like pixxing into the wind until you have ACTUAL 4 "corner" weights and the age of the tires.
You came here badmouthing Michelin, but you don't have any idea the age of the tires, whether they are overloaded or how they were treated before you bought the rig. You CAN'T guess the actual weight of the rig, you need to weigh it and not just axle weights, you need four "corner" weights.
Thumping a tire doens't work either, one of the trucker rags did a test and found very, very few professional drivers could tell a dangerously low tire (20% low) from a properly filled tire.
I also question your statement that you're rig can tow 10,000#'s. Where did you verify that? Deen, deeen, deeeen, If ya wouldve read, before I bought the thing I checked the numbers and the previous owner had it weighed (WHY WOULD I WEIGH IT AGAIN???). It was a concern of mine so I checked it before purchase, but thanks for repeating. As far as listening in the driveway, thats just a once in a while check and I can hear a diference,,, maybe its my musically tuned ear as a musician,, but before starting it up I run the guage on it.
as for the 10K, Im not going to photocopy the brochure, youll have to take my word for it
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pfunk
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hohenwald48 wrote:I thought you said the rears were inflated to 90 PSI. Which is it, 110 or 90? Maybe you need to go thump them again.
Then you speak of GVW for the front axle. I thought that would be GAWR.
Everything I said was based on numbers and information you provided.
You know, folks on here are just trying to help you out but we can't seem to get any sensible information from you. If you want help, we would be glad to do what we can. If you already know everything then why did you ask a question?
And, I'm done here.
not even worth my typing but anyway. I wasnt asking a question, I was making a statement. The only question I asked was "Whats the skinny with long lasting RV tires (more then a couple years)and what brands and models should I be looking at?"
Loosly translated means
what are some good tires some folks are using? I cant put it any better,,,,thump
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I am not trying to add fuel to this fire but just wondering. I have what I believe is the exact same coach and my front axle weighs in at 7800 lbs. I wonder why yours is 10,400. I also have the same tires with 36,000 miles on them and they look and run like new. 110psi all around.
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pfunk
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F.L.U.F. wrote:I am not trying to add fuel to this fire but just wondering. I have what I believe is the exact same coach and my front axle weighs in at 7800 lbs. I wonder why yours is 10,400. I also have the same tires with 36,000 miles on them and they look and run like new. 110psi all around. Your not adding fuel to the fire, you actually prove a point. The 10K is gross vehical for the front axle (same as yours, check the sticker)(what the chassis and tires can handle). In otherwords I am about the same weight as yours and can saftly load about 2K lbs on the front and the chassis and tires can handle it. My tires did look new and hardle any wear, That is why I posted. thiese are the 2nd set on the coach, 1st ones were goodyear 169's(from the prev owners paperwork)
You actually helped me prove the point that the tire wasnt overloaded.
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Pat
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