livingaboard
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Dianne and Tom wrote:I have Dish Network and when we went on a Rv trip I would cut the power off the receivers and use a another receiver I have in the RV. My bill would go up $20 a month when I did this. It was $5.00 for the receiver and $5.00 for programing. Because I had cut the power to the two receivers at the house and they could not call over the phone line. I got another $10.00 charge for the two receivers. This went on a couple times until I finially pined them down on what was going on. I got very mad cancel the service and was supose to go to Direct TV but the guy never showed up. No call nothing, from the installer. I got a call from Direct TV asking me how I like the service I had not got. I was on the phone for over a hour with them trying to find out what happen. I never did and still with Dish Network. I don't cut the power off the receivers when we leave anymore.
When I talked to Dish a few days ago, in preparation for Dish installation in a few days, I told the guy that I did not have a home phone and have not had a land line in over 10 years. He told me that as long as I either hooked the recievers up to an ethernet/phone connection OR used seperate receivers for each tv, that I don't have to worry about any access charges. Of course I have to pay for the receiver lease fee every month but no additional charges for no phone/ethernet connection.
Now, if I had a tuner that supplied programs to one tv and another tv in another bedroom, with no connection, then I would be charged $5 a month.
I am getting Americas 250, Turbo HD gold, locals, local in high def, two seperate stand alone receivers, 1 HD receiver and 1 HD/DVR receiver for 86.99 a month. Now, if something changes and they want to screw with me and charge me more, then I am going to call them up and cancel. I have no contract. I will go Direct TV if I have to.
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Bumpyroad
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pulsar wrote:A couple of observations.
Generally, the copyright laws do not allow a satellite provide to offer both local channels and DNS service to the same household. Ignoring this rule is what got Dish in trouble and, as a consequecnes, Dish can no longer provide DNS. (Note: Dish's violation dealt with "stick" house in that they provided DNS service to stick houses that could get over-the-air local channels. It would have been acceptable for Dish to provide the local channesl, but not DNS.)
There are exceptions, notably a grandfather clause. Any subscriber that had DNS service prior to a specified date (the actual date escapes me now) was allowed to keep it.
Since there is a third party providing DNS to Dish customes, I'm not sure how the law applies. As far as DirecTV, I believe you can find some service representatives that do not know the law and will let you have local and DNS on the same account, but they should not.
If you are interest here is the US Code.
Tom
yep, and also if you live in a zip code that shows that you can't receive local channels OTA, you qualify for them. That is originally how I got DNS in VA. I recently poked my zipcode into the inquiry and found out that I no longer qualify for them. After true locals were available in my area they dropped my NY/LA connection and I get locals from Raleigh. Interestedly, my neighbor in the same subdivision gets locals from Richmond, so don't know why but it could be a Dish/Direct issue. If you are trying to decide between dish and direct and don't live right in a city, and want locals, you may want to check and see which one offers which city.
And I think I figured out the discrepancy between the published Denver areas getting Denver locals and the fact that they are CONUS, is probably because you have to live in one of those Denver area counties to subscribe to Denver locals. If you live elsewhere, you cannot subscribe but if you already have them since they are not spot beamed you can receive them anywhere in CONUS.
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TechWriter
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livingaboard wrote:When I talked to Dish a few days ago, in preparation for Dish installation in a few days, I told the guy that I did not have a home phone and have not had a land line in over 10 years. He told me that as long as I either hooked the recievers up to an ethernet/phone connection OR used seperate receivers for each tv, that I don't have to worry about any access charges. Of course I have to pay for the receiver lease fee every month but no additional charges for no phone/ethernet connection.
Now, if I had a tuner that supplied programs to one tv and another tv in another bedroom, with no connection, then I would be charged $5 a month.
I am getting Americas 250, Turbo HD gold, locals, local in high def, two seperate stand alone receivers, 1 HD receiver and 1 HD/DVR receiver for 86.99 a month. Now, if something changes and they want to screw with me and charge me more, then I am going to call them up and cancel. I have no contract. I will go Direct TV if I have to.
I've have this same setup for a couple of years -- no phone connection but an extra fee.
The downside is pay-per-view gets more complicated.
The upside is when I go RVing I just unplug a house receiver & put it in the RV.
Tom
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Ag2000CO
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Dish Net works for me. No phone/internet connection, local channels at home and DNS from AllAmerica on the road using a tripod. I move the same receiver from the stick & brick house to the TT. No issues. When I got Dish the guy put the dishes on polls in the yard (so it was easy for me to take them with me) and stood in the trailer to check that everything worked (no hiding that intent). Now have a spare dish for the road. Sorry to hear others have had problems, just my dumb luck I guess.
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RLMiller
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I’m no expert on satellite TV, but my Direct TV home receiver seems to work fine in the RV with a couple of exceptions. Two weeks ago I was about 500 miles north of home and it took some fiddling to get it to work. I have an auto alignment antenna on the roof of the motorhome so all I have to do is set the antenna elevation based on the latitude, and the antenna finds the satellite. I used the receiver in the motorhome for the alignment since it’s interfaced with the antenna orientation circuitry. Once I find the satellite, I simply switch the LNB and TV to my home receiver. But, on the last trip there was no signal on Transponder 24 that I use at home since I was obviously out of the hometown spot beam. I simply switched to the Transponder channel with the strongest signal and I then received all the normal channels, except I did not receive the independent stations from Los Angeles. The network stations, including hometown news, worked fine. I also carry a portable antenna and tripod, but I rarely use it.
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dsouthw524
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We just use a DISH receiver from the home when we are in the RV. As you will be travelling away from your home area at about 100 miles, you will no longer be able to get your local channels. If you want to get Network programming (even if the local area doesn't have your particular network choice) you will need to receive distant networks.
As mentioned, there is a form that is a downloadable from the internet site which is required (by the Government) to be filed to be permitted to get the Network feeds (NBC,Fox, etc.). These feeds come from the east and west coast Through an partnership of DISH and a company called All American Direct. The form is simple and you will be asked to provide a copy of your current RV registration to comply with Federal requirements.
Hope my lengthy explanation helps.
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I dropped Dish yesterday, I could not imagine that in the Dallas/Ft.Worth area there wasn't one single Dish Repair service that could work on RV's. The telephone tech kept telling me to disconnect, reconnect again and again. After losing the sync with my LNB they just couldn't fix it. Yesterday they told me to go to a dealer in a suburb about 30 miles away. After 2 hours of calling they told me that they didn't work on RV's. I called the Direct TV dealer in our town and he said "Sure we install them all the time!" They are coming to the house to change out both the house units and the RV unit. The monthly cost is going down by $50!
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Pablo?
Beaumont, Texas, USA 77706
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If I have Direct TV with local channels will
I receive the local channels while on the road.
I take my receiver with me and use a tripod
antenns.
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creeper
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The snow man wrote:You might want to change to Direct TV...That's what i ended up doing...
Why is that? I changed from Direct to Dish and am much happy with Dish.
Better equipment, better DVR, easier to wire.
I had to one splitter in my RV to get tv in 2 rooms with only one receiver. Installing Direct in the same Rv would require adding wires and a second box. Thanks but no thanks.
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pulsar
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Pablo? wrote:If I have Direct TV with local channels will
I receive the local channels while on the road.
I take my receiver with me and use a tripod
antenns.
Pablo
Generally, No. It depends on how far from home you travel.
Most locals are "spot-beamed." As long as you are in the "spotlight" you will receive your locals. Once you move from the spotlight, you will no longer receive them.
You can apply for an RV-waiver and recieve network channels from New York and Los Angles.
Tom
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