rondynowincomfort

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I don't think anyone can be to hard on someone who drinks and drive. On their families, they can be. The families are not the ones who went out and did the deed, they are innocent in the situatiation and find themselves looking for their support system, friends.
I know as well as any the consequences of a person who drinks and drives. My half brother in MO lost his life to a drunk, himself. He was lucky, he only killed himself, not someone who had nothing to do with what he did. He left a wife, a son, three sisters, one mother and numerous other family members to deal with it. Fortunately I can say my involvement in his behavior was limited because we lived in different places and were not close.
I don't have compassion for the drunk, but thier family I do. I don't drink if i'm going to drive, even one drink. Personal choice.I have been excused from jury duty in a drunk driving case because I told the judge I didn't think I could be objective.
There is only one thing that would make me be hard on the family, if they were the one who let the person get in a car after having been drinking.
Lighten up on the mom and offer her a little compassion in the situation.
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74discoverer25

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i read page one and thought "weren't any of these people ever young? then i read page two, there were some very appropriate and thoughtful responses. the young man deserves some legal punisjment, maybe some counseling, but i cant go as far to say somebody that did something stupid, deserves a like of physical pain and punishment. you do something intentional, like shoot somebody, let them suffer, at least for a good while!
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whimstock

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74discoverer25 wrote: i read page one and thought "weren't any of these people ever young? then i read page two, there were some very appropriate and thoughtful responses....
Talk is cheap. Some of the posters have children and or grandchildren who are not even old enough to be in a DWI situation...and yet they would have us believe they know exactly what they would do, and how quickly they could turn away.
Same with friends. We never truly know what we would do in another's situation until we are there...and then not always.
However, I wish them all perfect children and perfect friends.
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mking

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Alot of difference between empathy and sympathy.
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74discoverer25 wrote: i read page one and thought "weren't any of these people ever young? then i read page two, there were some very appropriate and thoughtful responses. the young man deserves some legal punisjment, maybe some counseling, but i cant go as far to say somebody that did something stupid, deserves a like of physical pain and punishment. you do something intentional, like shoot somebody, let them suffer, at least for a good while!
I was NEVER young enough to get drunk,, and odds are I'll never be that young in the future.
I am, however old enough to know the damage that drink can do
I won't say I've never had a drink.. I have, on rare occasions, However I have a one drink limit, and at 300 pounds (Or even 150 pounds) 1 drink is a long way from drunk.
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Mandrake

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.....my wife's parents were hit in an intersection 6 blocks from there home in Tacoma. a drunk ran the light at high speed, hitting them broadside......they died on the spot.
My aunt and her family were in a line of traffic outside of Canon City, Colorado, when a drunk crossed over the centerline, hitting them head on. My aunt, uncle, and cousin were killed instantly.
I was 1/2 block from the police station, going into an intersection when a drunk ran the light at high speed in his 3/4 ton pickup, taking the front end off my marked unit, including the engine. Luckily, I had a ride around with me who was able to see the guy coming, allowing me to hit the brake just enough to keep from being t-boned in my door. That might have hurt. As it was, neither of us got a scratch.
I have little sympathy for those who drive under the influence.......
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rondynowincomfort

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Quote: I won't say I've never had a drink.. I have, on rare occasions, However I have a one drink limit, and at 300 pounds (Or even 150 pounds) 1 drink is a long way from drunk.
I agree that at one drink the average person would not be drunk. I have made the personal choice not to drink even with only one drink. I don't condem those who choose to have a drink while they are out with friends or having dinner. It is those who have 3 or 4 or more drinks and then gets behind the wheel of a car with no consideration to the people who are on the road that they may injure or kill. When they damage themselves that is one thing, but we all know that is usally not the case.
BTW, if I have a drink with dinner the DH drives, if he has a drink, I don't. We usally decide before we get to the reasturant. This is all personal choice, and since neither of us drink much it is no sacrafice on our part.
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Skid Row Joe

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Mandrake wrote: .....my wife's parents were hit in an intersection 6 blocks from there home in Tacoma. a drunk ran the light at high speed, hitting them broadside......they died on the spot.
My aunt and her family were in a line of traffic outside of Canon City, Colorado, when a drunk crossed over the centerline, hitting them head on. My aunt, uncle, and cousin were killed instantly.
I was 1/2 block from the police station, going into an intersection when a drunk ran the light at high speed in his 3/4 ton pickup, taking the front end off my marked unit, including the engine. Luckily, I had a ride around with me who was able to see the guy coming, allowing me to hit the brake just enough to keep from being t-boned in my door. That might have hurt. As it was, neither of us got a scratch.
I have little sympathy for those who drive under the influence....... Isolated incidents, are only isolated when they happen to people you do not know. None of Mandrake's examples are isolated incidents.
I hope they (the authorities) do a permanent enough punishment to make the multiple DUI offender never drink again. -Just a hope.
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Yes you are mean. You went to Alaska this past Summer and did not take us, even when we volunteered to go along and do the cooking.
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rvdogmom40 wrote: To be empathetic toward your friend does not condone what her son did ie "You are very concerned about your son's future" or some such comment that, without judgment, acknowledges her feelings. She does not want or need your judgment, but your continued friendship. I am sure she knows her son was wrong to drink and drive. If she continues to go on and on, perhaps you could suggest that she talk to a professional.
I have not read all the responses, so if this is a repetition, please excuse 
I did read all the responses, and I like yours best.
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