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BFL13

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Posted: 05/28/08 07:48am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Rather than bother GM, a person could actually read his driver's manual (chap 4), but of course that means taking it out of the plastic bag it came in where it has been resting unblemished since the truck was purchased some years ago.

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Why is asking the manufacturer of the truck the wrong thing to do? Already a few of you have made smart remarks about my advice to the OP to call GM. Every time I contact my vehicle manufacturer I get an answer with no hassles - and it's always the right answer. Please, someone explain to me why that is a bad thing or why giving someone that advice deserves the type of responses it is getting.

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GM has already provided that info in the driver's manual. Not nice to pester them about something they already did for you.

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outdoorsman,

The OP has the manufactures number, ie 2247 lb of cargo capacity, his question is "what is cargo capacity per GM?" Which per them, is the amount of weight you can put in the bed, after the seatbelts are filled with 150 or 154 lb bodies, latte depending upon which yr of OM from GM you are looking at. I have OM's here for different rigs in the past that say 150 or 154 lb people. This is teh figure in the glove box.

The figure on the door panel, says the total of cargo and people wt for total payload. My current 05 and my 2000 that employees drive is this way, as was my 96, 88, 86 and 81 GM trucks. The latter 4 did not have a payload sticker, but did have a cargo/camper load sticker in the glove box.

One can call the manufacture if they like, but it is in the OM somewhere, but I have to admit, I do not follow those numbers. I use registered/payed for wt numbers, and actual axel capacities to figure out what a truck can carry. My 05 is reg at 12K, the 2000 C2500 for 10K lbs GVWR. My dump truck is factory 18200, reg at 26K lbs, been pulled over at 27K lbs, NO overload ticket, other than a warning to reg truck at 28K lbs, as I was under Fed bridge law limits of 29K for that truck. There is no real right or wrong answer other than what the wt police will ticket you for. That is the real amount one should worry about.

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BFL13 wrote:

GM has already provided that info in the driver's manual. Not nice to pester them about something they already did for you.

Who said it isn't nice - they sure don't. That's what they are there for - customer service.
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The OP has the manufactures number, ie 2247 lb of cargo capacity, his question is "what is cargo capacity per GM?" Which per them, is the amount of weight you can put in the bed, after the seatbelts are filled with 150 or 154 lb bodies, latte depending upon which yr of OM from GM you are looking at. I have OM's here for different rigs in the past that say 150 or 154 lb people. This is teh figure in the glove box.

The figure on the door panel, says the total of cargo and people wt for total payload. My current 05 and my 2000 that employees drive is this way, as was my 96, 88, 86 and 81 GM trucks. The latter 4 did not have a payload sticker, but did have a cargo/camper load sticker in the glove box.

One can call the manufacture if they like, but it is in the OM somewhere, but I have to admit, I do not follow those numbers. I use registered/payed for wt numbers, and actual axel capacities to figure out what a truck can carry. My 05 is reg at 12K, the 2000 C2500 for 10K lbs GVWR. My dump truck is factory 18200, reg at 26K lbs, been pulled over at 27K lbs, NO overload ticket, other than a warning to reg truck at 28K lbs, as I was under Fed bridge law limits of 29K for that truck. There is no real right or wrong answer other than what the wt police will ticket you for. That is the real amount one should worry about.

I understood what the OP was asking - and just as I predicted, the OP got different opinions in this thread. Thats why I stand by my advice to contact GM and get the correct answer instead of the opinions they got here.

I don't follow the numbers either. The tire ratings are the only number I pay close attention to and do not exceed. Tires are the key, nearly everything is based on tires.

Remember that only commercial trucks are required to go over the scales. Private RVs are not weighed nor do the authorities want to weigh them. Oh they will pull someone over if they are a blatantly overloaded - like a pinto pulling a 40' toy hauler, but other than that they don't want to be bothered.

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slippity wrote:

My truck has a cargo weight rating of 2247 lbs, please define what this is.

Maximum payload capacity includes weight of driver, passengers, optional equipment and cargo.


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You guys are making this waaaaay too difficult. All you have to do is read the Tire and Loading Information sticker, located on the left rear door panel. This sticker was mandated for model year 2005 and later for ALL vehicles, not just trucks. It says, "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed____pounds."

It is self explanatory.

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Cat320 wrote:

You guys are making this waaaaay too difficult. All you have to do is read the Tire and Loading Information sticker, located on the left rear door panel. This sticker was mandated for model year 2005 and later for ALL vehicles, not just trucks. It says, "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed____pounds."

It is self explanatory.

Right, he has a 1999 GMC Sierra 2500 and he said "My truck has a cargo weight rating of 2247 lbs, please define what this is."

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8.1 Van wrote:

Cat320 wrote:

You guys are making this waaaaay too difficult. All you have to do is read the Tire and Loading Information sticker, located on the left rear door panel. This sticker was mandated for model year 2005 and later for ALL vehicles, not just trucks. It says, "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed____pounds."

It is self explanatory.

Right, he has a 1999 GMC Sierra 2500 and he said "My truck has a cargo weight rating of 2247 lbs, please define what this is."


The definition above is correct...the OP did not mention it was a 1999 model. We would not know the year without checking the profile which often does not include the vehicle or trailer.

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The door sticker capacity weight is not the cargo weight rating. The door sticker wt is the sum of the CWR and the occupant wt allowance which is 150lbs per seat.

CWR term is from the US govt order that created it (whichever govt outfit that is) from ISTR the 1970s. It was linked on here a couple years ago, so it might be found by Google. Truck makers have to provide the CWR to obey that order. It is mostly for seeing how much wt a slide-in camper can be, but it applies to any load in the box.

GM shows the CWR in the glove box when the truck is considered "qualified" to carry a camper. If the truck is not rated by GM to carry a camper, the glove box sticker says so and ISTR then the CWR is not given. But the Txxxx wt on the door sticker for the "total reserve capacity" is the same wt as the CWR anyway.

Ford obeys the order differently, by providing the CWR for a "base" truck in their Guide, and you have to allow for all the items that your truck has more than the "base vehicle" to get your truck's actual CWR. Obviously, GM's method is easier for the customer.

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