pupeperson
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My older (2000) big rig likes bio-diesel. I try to get at least B-11. When I can't get that, I additize with a combination of Lucas Fuel Treatment and Wal-Mart TCW3 2 stroke oil. The Lucas keeps the system clean and seems to promote a smoother burn, as does the bio-diesel. The 2 stroke oil adds lubricity, which isn't needed with the bio-diesel.
I can run this combination of additives all winter when the bio isn't generally available and experience no filter problems in the summer when going back to the bio, so I conclude that the Lucas is keeping the system clean. Also, the truck just runs much better when operating on regular diesel if it is additized with the Lucas.
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SyN
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SoyPower!!
http://www.soyclean.biz/shopping/productsdetail.asp?cat=DFA
From our own farmers here in the U.S.A.
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CAMike
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My God! You've gotta love the uninformed and/or deliberate trolls who spew the the "No Additives Needed" mentality. Please just point me to the cliff and let me walk off now!
Allow me to clairify- since Tier II Bin V standards (2007)have been out the ULSD has to be "supplimented" at the depot to the Minumum Lubricity Standards. AHOY? Hello? YES folks- The man who fills his tanker truck is the last and ONLY person who adds the necessary lubricity additive to the load prior to fueling station delivery to make up for the shortcomings of the new ULSD fuel. Diesel cracking ain't what it used to be. Chevron, Mobil Valero... whoever. That's right if he's in a hurry, wife's on the rampage, mistress is calling incessantly, whatever, he is the one who could/can forget to add the lubricity and the manufacturer will have no idea he left it out of the load. In other words if that delivery driver srews up- it's your loss PERIOD! ALWAYS ADD Lubricity to your fuel. One load without it may not hurt you but several loads is a risk that you'll never know about it until it's too late. The one man who drives the delivery trucks is 100% responsible for making the new fuel HFRR 520 compliant. As far as lubricity standards are concerned. Without that additive at the depot level you're filling your tank with a diesel product that will surely score your cylinder walls and dramatically reduce the longevity of your engine. This is old news.
Link below
http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fuel_additive_test.pdf
You must understand what HFRR 520 is and/or at least the first 3 pages of the attached link to understand what the issue is at hand. Yes keep reading the first 3 pages over and over until you understand it. It is totally unacceptable to allow people to post "No Additives Needed" as far as diesel is concerned on this forum. It's like leading the sheep to the slaughter. Most people aren't aware of what HFRR 520 exactly means. Then again, most people on this forum think K&N is like KY for cars.
Rant OFF.
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coolbreeze01
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If it makes you feel good, then spend your money. I'll use the money I save not buying additives, to buy more fuel 
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marty649
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first add more lube incase they don't add it then add more octane just incase then add more caffeine cuz what if they don't? Where does it stop.
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SyN
Oklahoma
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Marty: It will never stop!!!
I for one see it this way. Do I beleive anything that the Top 10 Fuel Companies Tell Me? H3LL No!! Whether it be on a CD or some sort of Goober Document. They are only going to put out, what they want the general public to know. Even it is an approved document by our government or congress. Do I beleive them? LoL! Not by know means.
It's all about --->SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!
This is why i love this country, we are still allowed a choice.
I use 1 additive, and it has proven to myself that it keeps my fuel system clean and running smooth. Which saves me money at the pump.
One major plus--> Saves me thousands of dollars from having to replace injectors.
Have a Nice Day Everyone.
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mowermech
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mtlogger wrote:I haven't switched over to ULSD, b/c it's not required yet. The only additive we've ever used is Powerservice Diesel Kleene. When we do, it will be to BioDiesel.
I don't know where you live, logger, but here in Billings I haven't seen anything BUT ULSD fuel. Flying J, Town Pump, Cenex, Albertsons, Conoco, all ULSD.
I don't use any additives in the Liberty or the Ram.
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Blaster Man
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CAMike wrote:My God! You've gotta love the uninformed and/or deliberate trolls who spew the the "No Additives Needed" mentality. Please just point me to the cliff and let me walk off now!
I'm always amazed at the vast store of knowledge among our members...guys who are so much smarter than the engineers who design, build and warranty these trucks.
My owner's manual says not to use additives because they may harm the engine and void the warranty.
That's pretty clear to me.
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SyN
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Not to be disrespectful to anyone within these boards, but here is a question I ask myself 3 times a wk.
Why would ANY of the so called engineers or Manufactures endorse a product or products that would prolong the life of thier equiptment? They would have to be total Dee Ta Dee's to do that. They would lose more money then what they already are.
Or maybe im just one who looks way outside the box? Who's to Say? and to think the last 3 #'s of my social security number is 666. Ya Baby!
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pupeperson
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I forgot to add one point: If I owned a 2007.5 or newer vehicle with all of the latest emissions equipment, the only additive I'd consider would be bio-diesel. I believe all of the engine manufacturers allow its use. As far as I know, no other additives are recommended or acceptable to some, particularly to Dodge/Cummins.
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