Mike Up
NW Indiana section of Chicagoland
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19Sandie54 wrote:We loved our pup for many years and made great memories in it. It really comes down to how you like to camp and what meets your families needs. We are spoiled and love our full bathroom, big slide out and lots of kitchen counter space. What really got old was the set up, making those crazy bed ends, as we hate sleeping bags, packing food inside large plastic storage boxes, dragging huge coolers everywhere, always having to buy ice, and more. Its just so much more work. One other biggie is the price of these things. Some are up to $20,000. FOR A TENT on wheels. How can anyone justify that! I would never go back...
You must of had an 8' PUP. With hardside walls and a hard roof, with only the middle filled with synthetic canvas, they are hardly a tent on wheels. Maybe a tent trailer is but not a Pop Up.
My beds are always made when popping down and when popping up. Making them after sleeping in them is easy. I always use sheets and blankets, never sleeping bags. We put the food in the cabinets and pantry, never a plastic storage container. ICE, we have a 3 way refrigerator and a thermoelectric cooler. We never have to buy ice unless we choose to. Todays pop ups are comfort, featured, and nothing like a tent except the wide open windows and the sounds of nature.
Sounds like your missing out if you won't try one that's up to date in this century.
Have a good one.
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bondebond
Central Kansas
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Mike Up wrote:19Sandie54 wrote:We loved our pup for many years and made great memories in it. It really comes down to how you like to camp and what meets your families needs. We are spoiled and love our full bathroom, big slide out and lots of kitchen counter space. What really got old was the set up, making those crazy bed ends, as we hate sleeping bags, packing food inside large plastic storage boxes, dragging huge coolers everywhere, always having to buy ice, and more. Its just so much more work. One other biggie is the price of these things. Some are up to $20,000. FOR A TENT on wheels. How can anyone justify that! I would never go back...
You must of had an 8' PUP. With hardside walls and a hard roof, with only the middle filled with synthetic canvas, they are hardly a tent on wheels. Maybe a tent trailer is but not a Pop Up.
My beds are always made when popping down and when popping up. Making them after sleeping in them is easy. I always use sheets and blankets, never sleeping bags. We put the food in the cabinets and pantry, never a plastic storage container. ICE, we have a 3 way refrigerator and a thermoelectric cooler. We never have to buy ice unless we choose to. Todays pop ups are comfort, featured, and nothing like a tent except the wide open windows and the sounds of nature.
Sounds like your missing out if you won't try one that's up to date in this century.
Have a good one.
My thoughts exactly. The only time I have to pack up coolers is for boondocking longer than a weekend, with no grocery store anywhere around. I also did not spend $20k. I have a basic floorplan with no slide out and we don't have problems with space. Just did a weekend all closed up in it due to rain. Four of us survived just dandy.
Myself, The Boss, and two wanna-be Bosses
2006 Jayco 1007
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kfc
SC
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NEVER SAY NEVER! We are now back in a PUP and I love it. IMO it is easier than having a TT and it is far from being a "tent on wheels". As I have said before the key to enjoying a PUP is being organized. When we had our TT we spent more time inside watching TV than we did outside enjoy nature. We can do that at home. And the up keep is so much easier with a PUP. Have you ever washed and waxed a TT? It can take hours. I can wash my PUP in 15 minutes and I can store it in the gargage. And cleaning the inside of a TT is like cleaning a house. And as far as prices go TT are over priced too. Look for a good used one.
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ldavis0101
Shreveport, LA
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We used our 5th wheel one week this year and one week last year. We sold it and bought our pop-up in June and already we've camped in it 4 weekends, 1 long weekend, and we are leaving tomorrow morning for a one week trip. I found that in the 5er, we stayed inside a lot more. Now I sit outside to read instead of inside in the recliner. We cook and eat outside more - we are just really enjoying it more. Don't get me wrong - the 5er was very nice - but we've enjoyed "camping" in the pup. We are in our 60's (early....60's - ) and don't mind the set up and take down - it's not hard. We have a cheat sheet we go by and and use it every time. My husband says this will be our last camper - he loves it. We pack our clothes, food, etc. inside before we pop it down and carry a cooler if we are going a long ways with stuff to eat on the road. In the back of the truck is the cooler and 2 chairs. The only plastic box I have to unpack & pack is the coffe pot and stuff I put on the counter top. I had to pack that stuff up when we moved the 5er. Lot less cleaning inside & out - as someone else said. We are very satisfied. Sorry for going on so long!!
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WaltinColo
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Just remember...
You're not stepping down to a pup.
You're stepping UP to real camping!
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Me, the wife, and the little guy....
...oh, and 1 loving, ready to go camping anytime, Black Lab
DAYS CAMPED SINCE PUP PURCHASE: 112
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19Sandie54
AZ
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We had a Coleman Santa Fe, so it wasn't a 8'r, but no one under any circumstances would ever be able to convince me to go back. We use ours all the time, all year long and its so easy and comfortable. Some may not call it real camping...Oh well...I guess we can consider ourselves RV'rs then. No difference, we still go all the places we did with the pup and go to places where we couldn't with the pup. Its really the best of both worlds for us.
JJ & Sandie
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markndeb1970
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We downsized from a TT to a PUP but it just didn't get it....we camped in a PUP for many years when we were younger and had great times, but had gotten used to the perks of a TT, we went with a Trail Manor 2720SL. It has as much room as our 27 ft TT and a full bath with holding tanks. It weighs roughly 2800 lbs and folds down to the size of a tall wall PUP...and no canvas or vinyl to care for.
http://www.trailmanor.com there are good used and new units out there. Set up in 10 minutes...we love it.
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sitecr
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Mike Up and bondedond are right on target. We have the new 2008 16' Fleetwood Avalon, with the slide, 2 queen beds, couch, walled shower/toilet, micro, in and outside grills, all the bells and whistles, plus we added the A/C and didn't pay $20K. Towing is done with a Trailblazer, no problem. Sleeps at least 8 very comfortably and we never undo the beds-just sheets and blankets. Set-up is vey easy and quick (unless we add the add-a-room which they threw in for free), and no issues with the tank. The highwalls provide for much more space, less set-up, and more comfort. The bigger fridge and pantry provide lots of grocery space--no need for coolers. I love it but then again I bought something with the amenities I wanted.
Sounds to me like they aren't looking at the right models and shouldn't settle for something less than what appeals to them. I'm not trying to sound smug but just like with voting, if you don't shop for what you want, don't complain about what you end up with .
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nick_hoff
South Dakota
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My family loves our pup. Actually most pups have more sleeping rooms than alot of TT. The biggest thing is storage. You don't get alot in a PUP. You need to be inventive on places to store things and how you do it. I would difinetely get a PUP with a front storage compartment. We have one and we can fit our grill, stove, camping chairs, lanterns, fishing poles, axe, saw, etc in there. You can get many of the same features now in the new PUP like bathrooms and grey water systems. Another option to look at are the TT with the foldout end bunks. You get a smaller unit to trailor but get all the sleeping room needed.
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Spearfish, SD
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yizit
Milwaukee, WI
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All I can say is good luck in your search. We had three PUP's and enjoyed the first 2, but the 3rd one just grew old for us (kept it 2 yrs). We have purchased a small 13' TT and just love it. We camp in the spring and fall now, and enjoy these times of the year. However, in the PUP it was just too cold and damp for us. We loved the out doors feeling you get with the PUP being able to open all the windows and feeling like you are right with nature. We purposely bought a smaller TT so we would not be spending our time in the TT. I realize you need something bigger, but our experience with the PUP's was not only the cold and dampness, but storage was a major issue for just the 2 of us. We used the other bed end to throw our suit cases and store other things, not to mention shoes. No place to put them. If you have a couple of kids, now you're talking more "stuff" to drag along. We camp for a week at a time and every time we loaded the PUP, we would always say to each other....where do ppl with kids put all their stuff?
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Happy trails to you, until we meet again
Happy trails to you, keep smilin' till then
Happy trails to you, till we meet again
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