ryoung
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My question is: How much suspension do you have left with that much weight over the gvwr? Take a look at the rear axle and see how far the bump stops are from hitting the axle with the camper on the truck?
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David_in_TX
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The rear axle rating is 6084 lbs. as stated in the official Ford bulletin, page 60:
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/non-html/2002/fsersdcd.pdf
canuck 1 wrote:Give me a break people, the rear axle on that truck is rated for around 10000 pounds... the tires are the weak link, brakes are the same as the 1 ton truck. GVW really does not apply to non commercial vehicles
Fix the tires and enjoy
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wayward1
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Factory ratings represent the weakest link. The axle in the op's f250 is the same as my f350. The different rating is because of other equipment (springs and tires). Rotors, pads, calipers are the same also.
BTW Before ford started using the Dana 80 for duel tire trucks the "Sterling" was used for duel tire applications. Same pig as in the 250 and 350. The difference is longer tubes and duel hubs.
Others will disagree with what many say here and be right, the factory rating is the factory rating and there is no argument. Proper mods can make you safe but don’t change the little sticker!
This is the most beaten dead horse on this site and the feed back you get here is among the best, we've all done it. Read well, seek out a pro where you live, you’re the one that needs to be comfortable with your rig. Do the right mods and I’ll travel with you anywhere with the truck you have!
BTW2- When I have a heavy duty truck de rated so any mook with a driver’s license can drive it, is the truck capable of less or have I just put an untrained and incapable person behind the wheel of a truck that should be driven by a CDL holder?
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DSeckt
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I also hauled a Lance 820 on a Ford F250. I upgraded to Ricksons wheels and Dunlop tires. I also had Rancho shocks, heavy sway bars and air bags.. Did this for 3 or 4 years. We do a lot of highway travel and always worried, even hauling a light utility trailer. I now haul the 820 on a Ford F350 SB dually.. I'd warn against the SB dually for resell. I plan on keeping this one until the wheels fall off.. We also use it for hauling a 36' 5er.
(Our dealer said it was nothing to haul the 820 on the F250.. He also said the 861 was a light weight TC)
06 Ford F350 Dually PS / SB
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Mooney
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canuck 1 wrote:Give me a break people, the rear axle on that truck is rated for around 10000 pounds... the tires are the weak link, brakes are the same as the 1 ton truck. GVW really does not apply to non commercial vehicles
Fix the tires and enjoy
A great reminder that sometimes we can get bad information on the net, and sometimes it can even get you hurt.
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Dan L
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Seams like the obvious solution is to sell the camper and get a lighter one. (In addition to the tires)
Ya, I know you'll take a loss, but it is a used camper that you don't really have a lot of money in, relative to a new camper, and it likely hasn't changed much in value sense you bought it.
It's likely that you'll loose less changing campers then in changing trucks.
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David_in_TX
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I agree that the manufacturer weight ratings are based on the weakest link, and the previously posted 6084 lb. rating may be due to the tires, you can see on page 65 of the PDF on Ford's web site that the tires are rated at 3042 lbs. (3042 x 2 = 6084).
I dug a little deeper and found the following article at fourwheeler.com which states the Ford 10.5 axle found on '99-'05 F-250's has a weight rating of 9,750 lbs. I am not sure of the validity of this data, it surely isn't an official Ford rating, so take this with a grain of salt. The axle was manufactured by Visteon, a supplier to Ford. Often people call these Sterling axles, because the Visteon plant was located in Sterling, Michigan. I think that plant was sold off.
http://www.fourwheeler.com/techarticles/........5_1050_inch_axle_tips/sterling_1050.html
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wayward1
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Right on David!!! Now I guess with the right Rims and tires you could overload this axle
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ryoung
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I think this whole issue of disregarding gvwr when loading a truck is Ok to some point. A few hundred pounds or so isn't going to make that much difference in the ride or performance of the truck.
But at some point you are going to have to face the gvwr implication in the fact that your are going to have to make suspension and/or tire and axle mods to make the vehicle driveable and safe. So why not at least give some consideration of the gvwr to start with.
As for the OPs situation, at 2680 lbs over the gvwr he is going to have to make modifications. What would concern me most about his situation is the degraded braking ability that he will have carrying this much weight. And I don't think any mod that he can make will improve it. You have to understand that gvwr is a rating the manufacturerer assigns to the vehicle so that it will conform with federal motor vehicle safety standards.
ryoung
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