up2nogood
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keyhole51walleye wrote:We got the same lously replies before we got our fifth wheel. We also got a few good ones so thats why we are still on this forum. We have a 2500hd chevy duramax and a 3400 Bighorn rl. We are safe and can stop fine. You should be fine with a similiar size Montana, Hitchhiker, Cedar Creek, etc. I wouldn't go with a 38 or 40 foot fifth wheel. Or one of the heavier "full time rigs", but you should be fine up to 14-15000 pounds. We did put timbrens on and that's about it.
We have pulled over nine mountain passes including Sylvan pass into Yellowstone. 18000 miles and no exessive wear on anything.
We are legal up to 260000 pounds,combined, and you are too so ignore most of the above posts
We get 11.5 mpg towing, so you will lose some mpg probably.
As another poster mentioned your real limiting weight is your tires.
Another way to find out what you can pull is to go to owner websites Heartland owners, montana owners, etc, and look at their rigs.
Clear skies and feel free to pm me if you have any questions so you can avoid the negative people.
Finally a man of reason, Yes I also tow in the mountain west with a big 5ver behind me. Yes the weak link is tires in most cases with these crew cab short bed long bed trucks 3/4 or 1 ton. People really need to understand the diffferences in a 3/4 1 ton SRW they would be surprised, very easy to find out get on a parts store online and look at part numbers for the important things brakes, rotors, axles, cooling system etc. Check wheel ratings, tire ratings. I run a after market wheel on my 1 ton superduty the stock wheel was rated at just over 3,100 lbs. My aftermarket wheels are rated at 3460 lbs.I gained just over 700 lbs on my wheels. My tires are rated at 3640 lbs @ 80psi. These are not opinions they are facts. People can do a little homework and find out that there 3/4 just might be more cabable then they think and definitely more cabable then what some of the above think or want to acknowledge. Don't bail out on your 3/4 ton before you do the homework
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sirdrakejr
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In the final analysis, the person towing has the final say so and the responsibility for that action. No one who gives advice on this forum accepts any of the responsibility or LIABILITY if the person that asked the question follows their answer. The choice is ALWAYS that of the person towing and knowing that, that person SHOULD be aware of the hazards and act accordingly. Telling anyone that it is okay to be overweight EVEN if you have been "lucky" so far does the OP no good.
And bickering back and forth about the answers does the OP no good either. Stay on topic and refrain from giving the types of answers that require editing. I wont edit those comments any more. The next one that needs editing will cause this thread to be closed. This is STILL a family forum.
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alsimon96
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"I have no problem hitting any speed over mountain passes getting 15-18 miles per gallon."
IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO BELIEVES THIS?
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alsimon96
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"I have no problem hitting any speed over mountain passes getting 15-18 miles per gallon."
IF TRUE, THEN THE TRUCK IS WORTH A LOT MORE THAN $50,000!
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ryoung
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up2nogood wrote:Remember just one thing its safety not door tags.
The numbers on the door tag do represent safety. That's the underlying purpose the government requires them to be posted there. It's sad that many people don't realize this.
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up2nogood
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ryoung wrote:up2nogood wrote:Remember just one thing its safety not door tags.
The numbers on the door tag do represent safety. That's the underlying purpose the government requires them to be posted there. It's sad that many people don't realize this.
ryoung
This is probably going to get this shutdown, but here goes AGAIN, The differences between a 3/4 and 1 ton in certain trucks, NOT ALL TRUCKS are slight in difference and nothing really that can't be changed to be safe regardless of the DOOR TAG SPECIFICATIONS and have the egual rating as the 1 TON if you can't acknowledge thats fine , but It still changes nothing as far as the truck goes in its cabability, and safety. I will repeat again it is safety and I am not advocating that is not. I fully realize what that sticker means , unfortunately you do not seem to get what I am saying. When someone comes on here and tells me that I have to go by the door sticker instead of just simpily changing something to make it safe because that won't work,then you will never hear from me again, but until then we will have to agree to disagree.
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HUTCH45
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Dustytu wrote:
"....I was told we were over weight with our 2 ton diesel! Told we were over weight with our 3/4 ton diesel with 5,000 pound helper springs...."
5K 'Helper Springs' don't change the stock GAWR, GVWR, or the GCWR....
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Rough2000
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cruiserjs wrote:Stop guessing and get to a proper scale. and remember_
"A pony can pull a loaded box car but it sure can't stop it!"
I always get confused by this type statement. First, I thought the truck brakes were supposed to stop the truck; and the trailer brakes were supposed to stop the trailer. Does your little pony have trouble with that box car jack knifeing for him???? I set my trailer brakes to slow the truck rather than the other way around.
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ejc1214
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USA in a Chevrolet wrote:jayhardy wrote:I've had a new Montana 2955RL w/ 2 slides for 2 years (quessing 10,00lbs) with a '06 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel. I have no problem hitting any speed over mountain passes getting 15-18 miles per gallon. Someone please tell me (besides an RV or truck Dealer) how big of a 5er I can pull (how many slides or length or weight). I want to get as big a 5er I can for the $50,000 I have invested in the Deluxe Dodge Ram.
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jay
Are you seriously saying that you get 15 to 18 mpg pulling your fiver over mountains? If so, & you can document it, it's time for me to trade my Silverado Duramax in. How do you compute your mpg? The only accurate way is to start with a completely full tank, drive across these mountains, refill the tank & divide the miles run by the gallons of diesel to refill the tank. Do this over a few tanks of fuel & you'll get a true mpg & I'll bet it's nowhere near 15 to 18 mpg towing, even on level ground.
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Grizzly128
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Maybe 15 on the way DOWN the pass........
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