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tvman44

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YC 1 wrote:

I think your biggest problem is the use of the meter.

If I understand you correctly you stated your 10 amp fuse is blown in the meter ? I can understand why with the way you are describing the use of the meter.

You cannot put an ammeter across a load. You will blow the internal protection fuse.
The lower scales may be protected by their design.

Here is how you should be using the meter when trying to measure amps. Visualize two garden hoses connected to a sprinkler. You would like to measure how much flow/current is running through the hoses. To make that measurement you need to seperate the hoses and place a meter inline with the hose so water flows through it in series.

To use the meter as a voltmeter and not an amp meter you need to do exactly as you describe and measure across the terminals.

Another way to use the ammeter is to simply remove the fuse from the circuit you would like to measure and use the meter to replace the fuse by placing your probes into the fuse socket.

That ten amp fuse in the meter is to protect the meter from over current which can damage or destroy it. Sometimes finding a replacement fuse is difficult but Radio Shack may have the right physical size one.

That is what he said he did.


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PAoutdoorsman wrote:

...would there be any drawback for this disconnect to be mounted in the TT at the electrical panel where the negative battery lead connects?


I'm not sure where you are referring to installing the switch but there is one potential drawback. Do not install the disconnect in a way that your brakes will not work in a breakaway situation. Your breakaway switch needs a complete circuit while towing to ensure that your brakes will work. Because of this I always recommend that the disconnect is installed in the positive line and not the negative.


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If you are concerned about voltage draw in storage why can't you just remove the fuse to the battery?? I have a 30 amp in line fuse b/n battery and tt. When in storage I pull the fuse. After hitching up I replace the fuse.


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chi6488 wrote:

If you are concerned about voltage draw in storage why can't you just remove the fuse to the battery?? I have a 30 amp in line fuse b/n battery and tt. When in storage I pull the fuse. After hitching up I replace the fuse.


I could be wrong, but I don't think I have this type of fuse.

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beemerphile1 wrote:

PAoutdoorsman wrote:

...would there be any drawback for this disconnect to be mounted in the TT at the electrical panel where the negative battery lead connects?


I'm not sure where you are referring to installing the switch but there is one potential drawback. Do not install the disconnect in a way that your brakes will not work in a breakaway situation. Your breakaway switch needs a complete circuit while towing to ensure that your brakes will work. Because of this I always recommend that the disconnect is installed in the positive line and not the negative.


The battery disconnects I've seen other people post pics of on here have all been mounted at the battery box, or very near the battery. I was just asking if it would be ok to place the disconnect switch inside the tt just before the battery cable connects to the electrical center. Still breaking the same cable, just at the opposite end.

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Yes you can put it anywhere on the pos line that goes from the converter to the battery.

In our 5er, the battery disconnect is inside and thus between the converter and the battery 40amp fuse near the battery. The stereo and LP alarm are wired to by-pass this line so they are always on whether the battery switch is made or not. They are not fused inside but have a fuse outside on the by-pass line.

All the battery switch inside does is isolate the converter from the battery; it does not isolate the battery from all its loads. Sort of stupid really.

My real disconnect switch is me going out and taking the neg wire off the battery post. That works great every time and it's free!

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