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judy&frank

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Posted: 08/29/08 05:34pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We will be crossing several mountain area in the next several months. Our 5th wheel weighs aprox. 10,000 lbs. Our truck has 150,000 miles on it and no transmission cooler or gauges. On steep climbs, we drop to about 48 MPH at 3000RPM. What major problems should I watch out for and what would the symptoms be?


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Paul B

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Sounds good to me. Keeping the R's up actually helpls keep things cool in a diesel. Going over to www.dieselstop.com and asking there will probably get you more answers. They live,bleed, and sleep ford diesels over there.

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Have an eye on your temp gauge, pay attention to how hard your transmission is working, and keep your fingers crossed. I hope you have a great trip.


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Dick_B

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I think the temperature gauge to watch is the transmission temperature.


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I find it hard to believe your '01 Ford doesn't have a tranny cooler. Mine did and it had an oil cooler too.

Your experience will be with what mountain ranges you're travelling thru. The Rockies are different from the Cascades, from the Alleghenies. Can you be a little more specific?


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Additionally interstate grades are different than secondary road grades.


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Yeah, they are usually 7% or less.


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The transmission cooler on the 7.3 engines was not nearly as good as the ones on the later 6.0 engines. I had a '99 7.3 and easily installed a plate-type transmission cooler immediately behind the front grille, in front of the AC condenser and installed a transmission temp gauge in a deep capacity transmission pan. I felt that all three helped. I strongly suggest the addition of the cooler at least. Keep an eye on your transmission fluid level, make sure it does not look brown or smell burnt. Look for leaks on the ground after hard uphill pulls and possible leakage from the dipstick tube which can occur with overheating and expansion of the fluid. Carry additional transmission fluid to top up if you lose any. Keep the revs up while climbing, it helps to circulate the fluid better.





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Judy and Frank
All PSDs have a tranny cooler. As long as you are not pulling slow up a long grade (low air flow)you should have no problem. Gauges are not that hard to install nor that $$ to buy. A tranny temp gauge should be a minimum.


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mtlogger wrote:

I find it hard to believe your '01 Ford doesn't have a tranny cooler. Mine did and it had an oil cooler too.

Your experience will be with what mountain ranges you're travelling thru. The Rockies are different from the Cascades, from the Alleghenies. Can you be a little more specific?


I also think the 2001 has both the OTW and OTA tranny coolers, but some of the F-series folks have gone to the large V10 or 6.0L OTA coolers. The earlier PSDs only had the OTA cooler and they experienced overheating problems and FORD retrofitted a lot of the earlier PSDs with the OTW cooler and included it as a standard sometime around 2000 or early 2001 IIRC. If you have a line going into the bottom of the radiator on each side on the bottom that go from to the tranny then you have the OTW cooler which helps during low flow over the OTA cooler under higher loads. Your tranny temp gauge is useless IMHO and the best thing you can do for around $75 is to get a real tranny temp gauge. The factory gauge basically says you're O.K. or "TOO LATE YOU'RE TOAST"

Larry


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