Keith99RS
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Another funny I notice is that many diesel owners use the higher resale arguement, but them say they will hold on to the truck so long it will be devalued anyhow. What is the point of higher resale if you keep the truck so long it need a rebuild to be of use to another buuyer?
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Regarding the 2007 HD Shootout, if I remember correctly, the GM was a SRW 3.73 rear end and the Ford was a dually 4.30 rear end. The article went on to say they could not get the same GM truck that they requested to compare equally to the Ford. The end result was a faster GM truck as stated.
Apples to Apples, RV Today (tv show)did the same "shootout" with a GM diesel dually and a Ford Diesel dually, both towing identical trailers, in the quarter mile, the Ford blew away the GM, hands down.
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If I were to go back to gas it would be the Ford V10 hands down. If I was going to tow with a gas motor I would want a big block.
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dodge guy wrote:blkfe wrote:Very well put. The posts from the GM and Dodge guys put such a smile on my face. When they come out with a gasser that will run with the V-10 Modular..watch their stories change....
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Well you better get ready to smile then. Dodge is coming out with a HEMI with alot more HP than the current versions. they also had a V-10 that would run with the Ford V-10. as for GM, well they still have the 8.1, I think?  
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marek
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I bought a 08 F 450 extra cab with the v 10 and 4:88 gears and a stake body with a header over the cab. Empty weight 10200 . Average combo weight 22-23k . With only 600 miles on it its getting 7 mpg and thats all stop and go driving. So far I have been very impressed with the truck.I have a and 02 550 with the 7.3 almost the same body and it gets 8 mpg. This is the first gas work truck I have bought in 14 yrs. The numbers just didnt favor the diesel anymore. If I were towing real heavy all the time I might have gone with a diesel again. Its wierd having to get into the peddal so much on big hills.
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rob85546
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People I know with the V-10's do better than that.... around 13hwy...
smudgedog wrote:I found the truck of my dreams. A 2008 Ford F 250 Super Duty with all of the bells and whistles. But the scary part is that it has a V10 engine with 4:10 gears. I can get away with the 5.4 but with all of the rebates most of the Super Duties are gone and I can't find one equipt the way that I want. A few people are telling me that the V10 has trouble getting 10 mpg highway even when not hooked to a trailer. If any of you have this truck, could you let me know what you get on the road.
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rw62
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What model year will that be? Will it be the 6.1?
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countryrose
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Keith99RS wrote:Another funny I notice is that many diesel owners use the higher resale argument, but them say they will hold on to the truck so long it will be devalued anyhow. What is the point of higher resale if you keep the truck so long it need a rebuild to be of use to another buyer?
Now that is a funny remark, if you are trying to support a gas over diesel argument. Based your concept how many gassers will you wear out and replace during the life of 1 diesel? You might want to rethink that approach.
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Keith99RS
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countryrose wrote:Keith99RS wrote:Another funny I notice is that many diesel owners use the higher resale argument, but them say they will hold on to the truck so long it will be devalued anyhow. What is the point of higher resale if you keep the truck so long it need a rebuild to be of use to another buyer?
Now that is a funny remark, if you are trying to support a gas over diesel argument. Based your concept how many gassers will you wear out and replace during the life of 1 diesel? You might want to rethink that approach.
About the same number as the average diesel buyer in all likelihood. The logic is flawed. I pay $6,000 more than a gasser then cite better resale value. Well, duh, it cost $6,000 more off the lot. Now enter the "it will hold resale value better than a gasser" argument. I don't buy cars/trucks to keep as a showpiece. I buy them to drive. They all go over 100,000 miles and are basically worn out by then anyways. Their only value is to me as they are paid off. Now the last longer issue? Perhaps outside of the rustbelt. The engine may be solid but at 200,000 miles you have in all likelihood invested plenty in keeping the chassis and rest of the truck from falling apart. The engine is only one component. If the almighty diesel is as good as many her worship it to be, we'd see a whole lot more 10 year old or 200,000 mile diesels. I see a lot of 5 year old trucks doing part time service as tow vehicles. There are exceptions of course.
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rustyfuryiii
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"They all go over 100,000 miles and are basically worn out by then anyways."
Hmmmmm...... Maybe I've taken this comment out of context. But I have had numerous vehicles that went well over this figure. They were far from worn out.
'76 Ford LTD - 351cid V8 - sold it at 220,000 miles.
'82 Kawasaki KZ440LTD - 440cc 2cyl 4 stroke - 110,000 miles.
'91 Mazda 929S - V6 - sold it at 175,000 miles.
'93 Ford F150 - 4.9L I6 - sold it at 267,000 miles.
'96 Buick Roadmaster Wagon - 350cid V8 - 174,000 miles, still driving it.
'98 Ford Windstar - 232cid V6 - sold it at 176,000 miles.
The only gasser engine is this line up that could be considered worn out would have been the motorcycle. The valve guides were worn out, and leaked oil, resulting in a bit of smoke at start up.
If any gasoline engine is taken care of w/ proper oil change intervals. And used as prescribed. It will give years and miles upon miles of reliable service. That is provided the engine was good to begin with.
Yes, the ancillary components (starter, alternator, water pump etc) that support the engine will fail over time. But the engine itself should do quite well over the long haul with proper care.
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