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havedreamwilltravel

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Curious how many are using Avoderm food for cats/kittens. I've contacted the company regarding the avocado thing and they did get back to me but just wanted to know who else feeds their animals this food?


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My daughter in Denver feeds Avoderm to her dogs - a collie and a German shorthaired pointer. It's the only thing that her GSP can tolerate with his skin and ear issues. Sorry, I think she feeds her cats something else, but she loves it for her dogs.


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Not me, but it has been around a loooooong time. I'm seriously doubting that would be the case if animals were dropping dead. I'm not sure where the "avocados are poisonous" thing started, dogs in CA have eaten them from under trees as long as I can remember, since people do tend to have avocado trees here. I can remember people complaining about their dogs getting really fat, though!


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Code2High wrote:

Not me, but it has been around a loooooong time. I'm seriously doubting that would be the case if animals were dropping dead. I'm not sure where the "avocados are poisonous" thing started, dogs in CA have eaten them from under trees as long as I can remember, since people do tend to have avocado trees here. I can remember people complaining about their dogs getting really fat, though!


According to both Breeder's choice (maker of Avoderm) and the ASPCA the culprit is Quatamalan avocados that is the problem and that it's mostly the pit, skin, leaves and bark and of course the meal that has the toxicity. The meal and oil is what's in Avoderm and from California avocado's - not guatamalen ones so was told it was safe. My cat likes the food and it was between that, Innova and Nutro. Found out Nutro has corn gluten and gluten of any kind should not be in pet food so I picked one.

Was just curious how many used the Avoderm food (my cat LOVES it) and what they thought.

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How interesting, and how really not surprising. I get so annoyed at all the "don't feed your dog this" panic lists, as they are full of half truths such as this one.

Not that I'd ever share avocados with my dogs, Guatamalan or otherwise... some things are just too tasty to share! In CA, we are very serious about avocados.

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Code2High wrote:

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In CA, we are very serious about avocados.


And in Oklahoma we're glad you are! We really enjoy California avocados.


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I figured that it WAS safe as the ASPCA and other entities would have done something as this food has been around for a long, long time.

Here's is what Breeder's choice sent me verbatim (I just like the fact they responded to my email fairly quickly!):

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We do receive this concern frequently. Below is a letter that addresses
why our food is safe and fills in the gaps between what is being
published. We certainly understand your concern, especially given the
recalls of some foods last Spring. Please note, none of our foods were
involved or affected by recalls.

Thank you for asking your question.


You can feel quite confident in AvoDerm Natural pet products safety and
nutritional value. In the 25 years since Breeder's Choice first
introduced this product line, millions of dogs and cats worldwide have
consumed AvoDerm products with no negative reactions from avocado oil or
meal. The avocado is full of vitamins A, C, D, E, and B6. Also, avocados
are rich in potassium, niacin, essential fatty acids and many other
nutrients for excellent skin and coat condition. AvoDerm Natural pet
products use only carefully selected suppliers of avocado meal and
avocado oil. Years of problem-free consumption of these products
indicate that AvoDerm products are not only safe for dogs and cats, but
also provide vital nutrients for them.

Concern has been expressed by the ASPCA about the consumption of the
leaves, fruit, bark, and stems from the avocado tree, with the exception
of the avocado fruit which is used for the oil and meal; none of these
parts are factors in any of the AvoDerm Natural pet products
formulations.

Dr. Art Craigmill, UC Davis, Professor and Extension Specialist in
Environmental Toxicology has said that his studies and other research in
the United States and Australia have shown that the problem of toxicity
is in the leaves and the pit of the Guatemalan variety; the avocado meat
of the fruit and oils have not been shown to be toxic. AvoDerm Natural
pet products do not utilize any Guatemalan variety avocados, nor do we
use any leaves or pits of any variety of avocados for our avocado meal
and oil.

The avocado meal and oil used in the AvoDerm Natural pet products comes
from the meat of the fruit and does not contain leaves, bark, skin or
pit of the fruit. The oil is extracted from ripened fruit in which the
meat pulp has been separated from the skin and the pit. Through a
mechanical separation process the oil is extracted and filtered and
placed into sealed containers. The pulp of the fruit is dried, ground,
and screened before being placed into its final packaging and than
shipped to our facility.

Dr. Guy Whitney, Director of Industry Affairs and Research of the
California Avocado Commission, has stated: "...in California there are
around 7,000 family farmers who grow avocados and almost every one has
dogs that actively seek out fruit that has fallen from the trees to
snack on. The happy, well-filled out and shiny-coated orchard dog is a
familiar sight to anyone in this industry and we have NEVER had a report
of a family orchard dog getting sick from eating avocados. Also, the US
Forest Service and UC Santa Barbara are about to publish a paper on the
importance of avocado orchards in California to sustaining carnivore
populations (bears, coyotes, mountain lions, foxes and small cats)
during drought conditions. All of these animals are known to eat the
protein and nutrient rich fruit that has fallen from the trees. Now
birds are a different creature and it IS known that avocados are toxic
to birds. Avocado leaves are known to be toxic to horses. Avocado
seeds (pits) are NOT edible and are toxic to animals."


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Hello! I feed my 3 year old cat Avoderm, and have been for about a year now. Rio has the smoothest coat you have ever seen on a cat, she is all black and her coat glows. She also has very, very little shedding. I also feed my Boxer and my Rott Avoderm, it's the only dog food that my Rott can tolerate, no more itching & biting and both dogs coats are as shiny as can be. My boxer is on the weight mgt. food and has lost 10 pounds (he was really overweight) nothing else worked. All three pets poo less frequently because they actually take in more nutrients from the food and the poo isn't as smelly. I know, that is gross but all pet owners are concerned about it.

Definitely try it! The only problem I have is that in my area I can only get it at Petsmart, and petsmart in my town has no competition so they charge whatever the heck they want to. We love Avoderm!


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vnconn wrote:

Hello! I feed my 3 year old cat Avoderm, and have been for about a year now. Rio has the smoothest coat you have ever seen on a cat, she is all black and her coat glows. She also has very, very little shedding. I also feed my Boxer and my Rott Avoderm, it's the only dog food that my Rott can tolerate, no more itching & biting and both dogs coats are as shiny as can be. My boxer is on the weight mgt. food and has lost 10 pounds (he was really overweight) nothing else worked. All three pets poo less frequently because they actually take in more nutrients from the food and the poo isn't as smelly. I know, that is gross but all pet owners are concerned about it.

Definitely try it! The only problem I have is that in my area I can only get it at Petsmart, and petsmart in my town has no competition so they charge whatever the heck they want to. We love Avoderm!


Glad to know! I have noticed it's just one poo a day, not that smelly and her coat is the softest shiniest i've seen it since we adopted her. I was going to switch because of the avocado but after talking to the ASPCA and Breeder's Choice i've decided to keep feeding it to her. She LOVES it too. I can only get it at PetSmart in my area too, but it's not too horribly expensive - no more than what I was paying for Nutro-Max - which still has corn gluten in it!

Thanks for replying with your experience!

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Code2High wrote:

I get so annoyed at all the "don't feed your dog this" panic lists, as they are full of half truths such as this one.


I agree.

I've fed my cats Avoderm in the past and they did well on it. I believe in a highly varied diet, and haven't fed it in awhile just because we've been on other things. The avocado doesn't concern me in the least.


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