Dadoffourgirls
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8.1 Van wrote:trop-a-cal wrote:GM is worldwide largest sales, with Toyota close behind.
"Toyota sold 4,817,941 vehicles globally during the first six months of the year, company spokesman Hideaki Homma said Wednesday, beating GM by 277,532 vehicles. Toyota said its global sales rose 2 percent from the same period the year before, while GM's sales fell 3 percent."
Toyota outsells GM worldwide in first half
This is kinda like a half-time score in football. Last year, Toyota was leading in the first half, and was beat in the second. The third quarter score should be out in the next 30 days. Will have to look at the numbers then!
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probably because more dodges are made to replace them that rusted out
ib516 wrote:Looks like GM continues to downslide. In Canada, Chrysler is currently a mere thousand vehicles behind for number of vehicles produced in Canada (not sales as this said before edit), and is expected to surpass GM by January by 10,000 units.
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End of the day, when you build something people don't want they will buy something else. Domestic got so hung up on the SUV trend, they have no pipeline for other vehicles, unless you call a crossover 'other'.
Chrysler is doing very strong in Canada relative to the others domestics compared to the US, not sure why this is though, any thoughts?
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A long time Chevrolet dealership in Alameda, Calif., shut it's doors yesterday. It was on the S.F. bay area news yesterday morning.
Apparently Tuesday evening they gathered all the employees in a room and told them, they were out of a job; the dealership is done.
We are talking about a major GM/Chevy dealership here in N. California!
I heard on the news that it is predicted that 1 in 5 dealerships will fold in the next few months.
I don't think its just the credit crunt doing this, as this dealership closing-thing was happening before all these big credit institutions started folding a few weeks back.
I think that the American car/truck makers are facing some tough cost problems........I.E. $1,500.00 worth of worker medical insurance tacked onto each and every vehicle built.......Something isn't right here.
Also, fleet MPG averages haven't improved that much for American makers either.
Evidence of this is easily seen in the S.F. bay area where I reside. Big old gas hog SUV's still are all over the place, and filling the used car lots by the bushels.
Somehow, automakers some years back got into this SUV building frenzy, and totally ignored or let the full size, mid size, and mini-size van market droop on the vine. Van's overall in their various itinerations are more utility-wise useful vehicles......I mean they can carry 7 -8 people with higher ceiling heights, can carry incredible amounts of cargo with seats removed, and in the mid-size bracket can crack off 25+ MPG's.
SUV's became in-vogue, and everyone had to have them in 4x4 configurations. Now we have Lincoln, Lexus, Caddilac, Chrysler versions with big a**ed engines and the makers brag about them now, finally getting 20 MPG's.
The American car industry builds some smaller fuel efficient vehicles, but they have pushed the SUV's and low MPG vehicles while Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai, and others continued to refrain from the big fuel surping SUV's......I do realize that the Armada and Sequoia, and large Lexus/Infinity SUV's are exceptions, but they are not as common as the Navigator/Escalade/type SUV's Detroit has been pushing on us.
So we have a couple domestic fuel miserly cars.......like a Cobalt....Whoopee! Now GM is getting wise and pushing up Cobalt production as well as other sedans and mini's.
The Chevy Volt is still not happening until 2010.......While even Hyundai may have a hybrid Sonata out before that, and Volkswagen had a 50 state legal diesel Jetta that's selling out at all it's dealerships quicker than they can replace them. Honda is going to introduce a higher MPG Hybrid Civic, and Toyota has a new Prius coming shortly.
So, Chrysler comes up with a big a** Aspen/Durango hybrid that gets about the same mileage as the Tahoe hybrid.......barely into the 20's mpg.. At least the Chrysler Aspen isn't stratospherically priced like the Chevy Tahoe hybrid.
I think it's a crying shame that Detroit has neglected the Mini-van and has succumbed to style over utility with the glut of SUV's. Seems like it just fed our vanity for style over substance.
Well, in capitalism, it does indeed self regulate. Automakers got shocked out of their britches back during the 70's OPEC oil boycott, and more fuel efficient detroit cars such as the Pinto's, Vega's, Gremlins, sold faster than supply, and big old full sized detroit iron sat on lots rusting away.
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