jdog
Some Place
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cwit wrote:It's beginning to sound like I will stay out of ca. when towing this state is after money not safety. Me too,too.
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keyhole51walleye
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jdog wrote:cwit wrote:It's beginning to sound like I will stay out of ca. when towing this state is after money not safety. Me too,too.
If you are not from California you don't need this license. Just whatever your state requires.
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Frank_EP
Fountain Valley, CA
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Pure Diesel wrote:Frank_EP wrote:As I understand it, if you want to tow double, you need the Rec A endorsement.
Even if your 5th wheel is under 10K, like mine, you need the Rec A endorsment to
pull a bumper pull behind your 5th.
I will be getting my Rec A license some time soon.
You are wrong on this. If you want to tow doubles in California, you are required to have a class A w/dbls/triples endorsement. I know because I do this and I have the license. Maxium length is 65' for single trailer and 75' with the doubles.
You could be right, but you could be wrong.
Today I spent a long time working the CVC on this issue. For non-commercial
use, with a tow vehicle of less than 10,000 GVW, with a GCVW of less than 26K,
where each trailer has a GVW less than 10K, where each trailer is less than 28.5',
where the total length is less than 65', where the first trailer is a 5th wheel,
where all trailers have brakes, it looks OK to tow doubles.
This defined below the class A definition, and is specifically defined as a
class C. Not even the RV endorsement is needed. My notes are at home, but
this is interesting. I will probably ask for a ruling from the DMV or the AG.
The CVC is very badly written.
2003 Lance 1071 maxed out plus 200 watts PV, accumulator and bottle opener
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sirdrakejr
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Moved from 5th wheels to Gen'l RVing Issues since this has become a more general topic.
Frank
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For those of you looking for expert advice, here ya go!
Frank
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hotpepperkid
Chino Hills CA
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What I get from this is CORNFED "5-0" is out to give as many tickets as he can.
What about the little line at the bottom of his post
HE WHO CHASES MONSTERS! SHOULD SEE TO IT, THAT HE DOES NOT BECOME A MONSTER HIMSELF!
hpk
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Matthew_B
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Bakersfish wrote:In regards to stopping out of staters...I haven't seen or heard that. As long as you conform to the laws of your home state, you should be OK.
That's true for licensing & registration. Not so on the equipment. You've got to meet the rules of the state you're in for the equipment.
For example, if you can double tow at home, you can't in CA unless you meet CA's specific doubles requirements. (1st trailer a 5er, 2nd a boat).
**PS: Since the subject is licensing, I'm not arguing with you, just adding info to it.
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Leeblev
Pinole, CA
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Frank_EP: Irregardless of your research, you can not tow two trailers in Calif. even if one is a 5er PERIOD. By DMV definition, the TV counts as one vehicle. Take it at face value: No two trailer towing in this state. Now, if you are licensed Class A commercial, that might make a difference, but I won't test it to see if it flies. You also made a couple of errors. How could you have a TV and two RV trailers and stay under 26,000 lbs. and not exceed the GCVW of the TV? If I were still active LE and saw a 1/2 ton TV with something like you described, I think I would cite for unsafe vehicle and possibly reckless driving.
Out of staters need to be aware that you may be licensed to tow two trailers in your home state, but that does not necessarily mean that you can tow into a state that prohibits it, just because your home state permits it. As someone said earlier, you have to obey the equipment laws of the state you are going to visit.
By the way, everyone with a 102" wide MH: Do you know which states prohibit you from driving on their roadways? You need to know.
I got my class C endorsement for towing a 5er under 15,000 lbs. several, several years ago and knew about the need for a class A non-commercial for over 15,000 lbs. at that time. I have to agree that DMV usually doesn't have a clue!
Lee
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