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Mayoman

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Posted: 10/03/08 07:52pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks again for all the replies. For info purposes my truck is the 4x4 with the 4.30 rear end. Guess I was just expecting too much. Thought it would jerk the trailer around like a linebacker walking a chihuahua. I really do like the truck alot. Seemed very stable and felt like the truck was controlling the trailer rather than vice versa. By the way I always use the tow/haul feature and a steady foot(just kidding about the floorboarding). I personally disable overdrive when towing. Will say lots of difference between my previous TV (1997 Dodge CTD 2500) in towing this trailer as I mentioned above with stability and control. MPG towing was 10.3 with 450.


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Mayoman wrote:

Thanks again for all the replies. For info purposes my truck is the 4x4 with the 4.30 rear end. Guess I was just expecting too much. Thought it would jerk the trailer around like a linebacker walking a chihuahua. I really do like the truck alot. Seemed very stable and felt like the truck was controlling the trailer rather than vice versa. By the way I always use the tow/haul feature and a steady foot(just kidding about the floorboarding). I personally disable overdrive when towing. Will say lots of difference between my previous TV (1997 Dodge CTD 2500) in towing this trailer as I mentioned above with stability and control. MPG towing was 10.3 with 450.


Huh? You payed extra for the Torqshift and now you try to out think it? I sure would'nt want to listen to the engine scream away in 4th with 4.30's.............





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With a gas engine, you don't want to floorboard the engine all the time


NOW you tell me! But it sounds soooooo good.


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If your truck is lugging going up hill it could be that it is in a regen mode. Cleaning out the DPF. The driver infromation center will tell you this if you have a job 3 truck.

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If your truck is lugging going up hill it could be that it is in a regen mode. Cleaning out the DPF. The driver infromation center will tell you this if you have a job 3 truck.


regen mode, DPF, job 3 truck? Huh? Come on whporwil, talk to us uninitiated ones.


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I also look at the web site, ford-trucks.com. From there you can go to 2008 6.4 power stroke diesel page. This is a good source of infromation on the new Super Duity Ford. When you talk about regen this is the process that cleans out the dpf. (Diesel Particle Filter) My understanding is when your truck goes into regen a lot of extra fuel is pumped into your truck to heat up the exhaust and clean out this filter, the extra fuel is what's making the motor run crappy or very rich. Job 1 trucks are all the Super Duity trucks made before July 1 of 2007 then started the Job 2 trucks and when the Job 3 came out I'm not sure. I do know Ford made changes to each one mostly reflashing the computer. All job 1 4x4 trucks have a short chin spoiler under the front bumper. Job 2 and beyound have a much larger one. The job 3 trucks are the only ones that actually tell you in the drivers infromation center that the exhaust is cleaning or in rejen. However it's my understanding the the earlier trucks can be reflashed and brought up to the latest spec, however some dealers will not do this unless you have a problem.

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Just a little FYI, putting the Torqshift in Tow/Haul mode does not disable overdrive. Actually O/D cannot be disabled on that trans. Tow/Haul will still allow the use of O/D but it will not allow it to shift until a much higher rpm. With 4.30 gears at 65 mph I guarantee it's in O/D.


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Sorry Chadsalt was referring to my old Dodge CTD. It had an overdrive off switch on the panel. On the 450 I just put it in tow/haul mode. To my knowledge there is no "overdrive off" switch on the Ford.

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720Deere wrote:

Just a little FYI, putting the Torqshift in Tow/Haul mode does not disable overdrive. Actually O/D cannot be disabled on that trans. Tow/Haul will still allow the use of O/D but it will not allow it to shift until a much higher rpm. With 4.30 gears at 65 mph I guarantee it's in O/D.


Double what???? I haven't driven a Ford in a few years (what was the first for the Torqshift? I think I drove an 04?), but you're telling me Ford made the same stupid, asinine, idiotic mistake Chevy did with the Allison but never corrected it? IIRC the first two years (01, 02?) of the Allison you could not manually select 4th, seems like Ford should have learned from that mistake. But you're telling me Ford STILL has not learned? I'm going to research into this.

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Mayoman wrote:

Sorry Chadsalt was referring to my old Dodge CTD. It had an overdrive off switch on the panel. On the 450 I just put it in tow/haul mode. To my knowledge there is no "overdrive off" switch on the Ford.


No need to apologize, I was just visualizing your truck running down the road at 3000+ rpm...........

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