NC Hauler
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MadMav, Are you selling your 2500HD that pulls that 40' 5er? Thought I saw a note that it was sold? If so, what are you going to buy to pull your 5er with? Looks like that one would take a 3500 dually at least. I was looking at the specs on your 5er and "dry hitch weight" was well over 2600#, that's with nothing in your 5er. I'd just never seen a 3 axle 5er with a pinweight as light as you say it is, especially one that long. Looks like that 2500 would be a little pressed to pull it. I had an 04" 37RLS Coachmen Somerset with a pinweight of a little over 3200# and it really taxed my 03' 2500HD with the D/A in the mountains, in other words, "I knew it was back there", thus, I purchased my first dually, an 05 3500 D/A. The "mod" was right. Depending on the configuration of the truck, (reg. cab, 2 wheel drive, short bed SRW 3500),it would carry more pinweight then a CC/LB/4X4 3500SRW because the first example weighs less.
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larry barnhart wrote:We have a winter neighbor in Az that has a very large triple axle Travel supreme and a chev 2500 short box truck. He has told others the truck is very good.
chevman PS I do not agree
I don't believe anyone will disagree with that setup, plus the truck is probably a stock 3/4 ton. This topic could or could not fall into this category, but until there is some actual weights its speculation as usual.
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MadMav
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NC Hauler wrote:MadMav, Are you selling your 2500HD that pulls that 40' 5er? Thought I saw a note that it was sold? If so, what are you going to buy to pull your 5er with? Looks like that one would take a 3500 dually at least. I was looking at the specs on your 5er and "dry hitch weight" was well over 2600#, that's with nothing in your 5er. I'd just never seen a 3 axle 5er with a pinweight as light as you say it is, especially one that long. Looks like that 2500 would be a little pressed to pull it. I had an 04" 37RLS Coachmen Somerset with a pinweight of a little over 3200# and it really taxed my 03' 2500HD with the D/A in the mountains, in other words, "I knew it was back there", thus, I purchased my first dually, an 05 3500 D/A. The "mod" was right. Depending on the configuration of the truck, (reg. cab, 2 wheel drive, short bed SRW 3500),it would carry more pinweight then a CC/LB/4X4 3500SRW because the first example weighs less.
My trailer does have and advertised pin weight of 2588lbs empty. I do not have any toys to put in it yet, so we barely pack 500lbs of camping stuff as is. I put Firestone airbags on the truck when I picked up the trailer. The guy installing everything said I didn't need them, but I had my doubts. He showed me that he was right. He aired the bags to just 20psi(because they can't be empty) and dropped the trailer on the truck. It didn't even drop the truck to level. One tough truck, or one light pin. I will go weight it some day. To tell you the truth, the truck handled the trailer like a dream. Up here in the mountains the power was a little low, but would still climb the big hills at 50mph. Never had a problem with towing except once I was passing a slower trailer and came on a downhill curve too fast. No real problem, but knew it was there then but it slowed just fine and we were on our way.
I did sell the 2500....the reason....the boss said I can get a newer truck with lower miles.  Something that will last me a while and is in nicer condition. So, if I'm gonna upgrade, I'm going dually. I have always wanted one, but never had a reason for one. Now I do. Plus I want to put a tank/box in the bed. Couldn't do that much weight on the 2500. I do expect the dually will handle this trailer better than the other, and I know I will forget it is back there. I did most of the time with the 2500.
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Thanks for all of your opinions. The trailer I am getting is a 3585SA Montana. The light Weight is 11,555 I figured the weight would be around 13,500. Maybe that will help.
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Al B
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You could definately do it with a SRW, but for stability, and only stability, I would have a DRW. It's the length of the trailer that will cause stablility issues, the SRW will work, but not as well as DRW. JMO
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MadMav
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A newer SRW 3500 will haul that just fine. With an empty pin under 2000lbs and fully loaded to GVWR at 15500, at 20% the pin will be around 3100lbs, and at the 13350 it will be around 2700lbs. Well within SRW 3500 ratings. But if you are going to be hauling this thing everywhere, I would go with the dually for the extra stability.
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BruceStarkey
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I think there is a lot of resons fore and against for either. My personal opinion leans towards the dually for towing anything with large slab sides for the increased stability provided for sidewind and large truck passing events.
LT radial tires with their flexible sidewalls allow for side deflection and the more sidewalls the less steering correction required. I would think the cost advantage of replacing 2 tires versus 4 should be secondary, and wouldn't having 4 to share wear mean they would outlive the 2 aside from age related change of course? Only asking.
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TXiceman
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MadMav....do you have a weight ticket where you weighed the rig????
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MadMav
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No, it has not been weighed.
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NC Hauler
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Dodge or Ford may have better specs with their 1 ton SRW trucks, but GM/Chevy's 3500 SRW only picks up another 700# of GVWR, from 9200# for a 2500HD to 9900# for a 1 ton SRW. Not that much difference. With the all employee pricing, I've seen an LTZ 3500HD/CC/LB/D/A 4X4 that stickered for almost 53,000 going for 38,900 and that didn't include any customer loyality rebates or reg. rebates, if any. I'd go with a dually. It's my daily driver, I take it everywhere, park it "wherever"
and also drive it through fast food and bank drive throughs..no big deal. For longer heavier 5er's, at the least, you need a 3500 DRW.
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