mwaussie

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I lost both of my dogs to cancer. It can be a complex issue. Pain meds can cause GI upset and weird behavior. Anxiety is sometimes an indication of medical problems. Have the vets done full labwork and an ultrasound? Good luck to you and Daisy.
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dturm wrote: You are probably about equal distance from Chicago as Champaign. There are two good specialty clinic I frequently refer to in the Chicago area, Vet Specialy Clinic in Buffalo Grove, and Arboretum View in Aurora (I think). I've had good results with U of Il. also.
It sounds like pain response to me, but I wouldn't rule out behavior or neuro (seizure like episode). Since Pepto worked, I'd lean towards some sort of GI pain. I also see the stretchng and panting with GI pain.
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Vet Specialty Center in Buffalo Grove, IL.
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Thought I'd give everyone an update....
We gave Diz a small amount of sedatives Monday and Tuesday nights, so everyone could get some sleep. Thursday night, she was fine, with no sedative. Friday night, she had an episode, tho not as bad as they've been in the past. Last night, she did fine with no sedative, but she seems to be a little fussy right now. Usually her episodes are in the middle of the night.
Looks like we can rule out a reaction to the pain meds, since it's been a week since she's had them.
One other symptom I forgot to mention before, she burps when she's having a spell.
I'll see what our vet says in the morning.
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Poor Diz is full of medications. Perhaps you need to detoxify her
I would seek an opinion from the vet school. It would be worth a trip just to help Diz
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I just got back from the vet, after taking Diz in. This time she right away said it was stomach problems. She said the pain meds she was on could've really made her tummy sore, even a week later. She said to give her Pepcid AC daily. She said, she should be better in a day or two. I can't tell you how bad I hope this cures it!
She also looked in her mouth again and said it looks good. Less red and doesn't appear to be coming back. Good news!
dogdiva wrote: Poor Diz is full of medications. Perhaps you need to detoxify her
I would seek an opinion from the vet school. It would be worth a trip just to help Diz
Diz has only had the pain meds (and not even those for over a week). As for as the sedatives, the regular dose the surgeon prescribed was 2-3 pills every 8-10 hours. We've only been giving her 1 to 1 1/2 and only when she had to have them.
Lynn
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Poor Poor Diz (and you too Lynn). I hope the Pepcid AC helps.
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After 5 nights, and days, of having Pepcid AC, Diz hasn't had one spell. I think she's over them (fingers crossed). I'm so relieved.
It's hard to believe that one simple little white pill, that we could've gotten over the counter at any time, cured the problem. And it bothers me that Diz had to go through so much pain until we could get it fixed. I wish we'd known sooner.
But she's back to being the lazy, loving dog she used to be. If anyone needs their couch held down, I'm considering renting her out to help pay her medical expensese. : )
She goes back in a month to have her mouth checked again. There's still that to worry about.
Thanks again for all the response.
Lynn
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Hi Lynn,
Glad to hear that your lab seems better. As I was reading this thread the first thing that entered my mind was bloat.
Having standard poodles we are always on the watch for this dreaded problem. A dog can go from bloat to gastric torsion in a short period of time. Once they are in torsion then they are in big trouble.
As a standard poodle owner we are always on the watch for signs of stomach pain such as bowing, stretching, panting and restlessness. Once they go from this to trying to vomit or vomiting mucus we are on our way to the vet in a big hurry. My last standard poodle that bloated cost just over $5,000 to fix and we were lucky to save him. We were camping about 3 hours from an emergency clinic when he bloated; by the time we got to the vet he was in full torsion.
If we see any of these signs we make sure that the dog has a preventive surgery called tacking. I think the technical term is Prophylactic Gastropexy. This is done to help prevent Gastric Volvulus Dilatation (GVD) or Gastric Torsion.
Interestingly enough things like pepcid, pepto bismol etc seem to relieve the symptoms but if it keeps coming back then it may be a bigger problem. Most dogs that bloat will at some point go into torsions.
Hopefully you have the problem solved but I just thought I would mention this just in case. Torsion can be a problem in Labs, as well as any larger breed with a deep narrow chest.
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Diplomat_St_Poodles wrote: Interestingly enough things like pepcid, pepto bismol etc seem to relieve the symptoms but if it keeps coming back then it may be a bigger problem. Most dogs that bloat will at some point go into torsions.
Hopefully you have the problem solved but I just thought I would mention this just in case. Torsion can be a problem in Labs, as well as any larger breed with a deep narrow chest.
I've heard of this condition. When Diz had her spell when we were on a camping trip, we took her to a nearby vet who first mentioned it to us.
She eats two meals a day. I'm wondering if I should cut that into 3 meals.
Thanks for the help.
Lynn
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