Stan Birch
Newmarket, Ontario
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MBGOVE is right on!
Sez he: "Ford/GM/Chrysler/BMW/VW/etc spend ten's of millions of dollars each to train their dealerships, not to put people on the phone. Self diagnostics for a complex piece of machinery just does not work over the phone. Putting highly trained people on the phone cost a significant amount of money . . ."
This is merely a fact of life in the new era of doing business. It merely makes sense, that when you call a manufacturer; it's a tad optimistic to expect that you will have the priviledge of talking to one of their engineers et al. The very best you can realistically expect, is to talk to a newbie minimum-wage telephone operator, whose sole purpose, is to get rid of you as quickly and as gently as possible!
The new business-fad is now directed toward third-party call-centres. If you happen to have a problem, these mimimum-wage operators are merely robots, confined to following a script. If you happen to have a legitimate problem, since they have no affiliation with the mfg, nothing whatsoever can possibly be accomplished at this level.
Although, attempting to impart yer discontent to the president/CEO of a company doesn't necessariy mean that you are going to be heard at any meaningful level. Presidents, CEOs, et al, also have their own customer-resistant firewalls.
Bottom line . . . select a dealer who will go to bat for you in the interest of their own self-preservation.
'99 Winnebago Adventurer 32T, Ford V-10
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TropicalRV
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Why do you think that Ford trucks outsell everything else combined? Because people like them and the quality is generally better than the others. Just because one dealer is a bummer is not a reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. You bought a Dog, I mean a Dodge, huh? Good luck.
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MBGOVE
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RRTom, I always thought that sitting causes oil to drain off parts and moisture to form causing rusting/pitting thus increased wear.
Mike
2005 Beaver Patriot Thunder - CAT C13 525/1650
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djevans
Tennessee
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RRTom . . .
MBGOVE is correct again. As exhaust and gases are replaced with air, the air contains moisture. Over time (and it doesn't take terribly long to start condensing) the moisture in the air will rust engine parts. Every year we have always "fogged" our boat engines at the end of the season, we still do.
The less an engine is run the more likely some event like that would be possible. Is it a big deal in a seldomly run RV? Perhaps not, but a lot depends on the interval between "complete engine warm-up" (thoroughly saturating the engine with heat) and time it sits. Even worse, as some have stated in this forum, starting the engine and then NOT running it for an adequate length of time. That's even worse, because now you haven't burned off that water and you introduce a new moisture cycle and you may even have some smaller steam particles now.
It's really bad in things like my 2 cycle Wave-Runner that is lubricated by vaporize oil but using lake water to cool the engine. I work on my RV but not any major work on my Wave-Runner. The mechanic that does the Wave-Runner work for me, has mentioned several times, that he replaces several engines a year, 1 from the owner not using the engine, and 2 not flushing and draining the engines after use or if sitting for quite a while. It's kind of a similar thing with engine moisture in those engines as well. Moisture is present in the oil pan, gets into bearing on the crank, etc., some valves are always open, etc. etc.
Don . . . near 36.171N 086.784W, TN near here
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LVJ58
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RVER, from what you describe, sounds exactly what happened to my neighbor's 91 coach with the 460. Same noise and everything, turned out to be a faulty electronic module that caused the ECM to lean out the engine and fried a piston on the left bank. The piston cracked and pieces broke off around the top edge of the piston. Had to replace his engine. Hope you find it's something else.
Best regards, C. Jim
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Las Vegas, NV
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REXHALLER
ALBUQUERQUE N, M, USA
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Go back to your manifolds and retorque them. Loose manifolds can make a ticking sound.
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