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mrblaine

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DonCurley wrote:

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We change air bag pressures quite often and without the in-cab controls and air compressor/tank, this would really be a pain. It's also nice to have on-board air for pumping up your tires as well as for other uses.


We should us a little air-off after I get my new OBA installed on the Jeep trailer. How does 20 cfm at 0 psi and 8 cfm at 90 psi sound?
Sounds like a lot of hot air to me.
Seriously, the VTC specs are quite something. The Firestone compressor that comes with the Ride-Rite air bag system is a convenient OBA system, but it is not truly "heavy duty" in terms of its output or duty cycle. However, for pumping up the air bags or airing-up tires, it's not too bad. You certainly are not going to be able to run air tools or do a lot of demanding things with it though.

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I haven't been able to get my normal CO2 squared away on the new trailer so I went with Warn's new VTC. We'll see how it does.
The VTC does look like a formidable OBA unit. I'll be interested to hear what your opinion is of that after you get a chance to use it in the field.


No hot air Don, it has a built in intercooler that drops the compressed air temps to slightly above ambient.


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No hot air Don, it has a built in intercooler that drops the compressed air temps to slightly above ambient.


Yeah, I realize that. It was just intended as a play on words joke.


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So I have a question. Today was my first time out on the road with the truck and camper since I instaled the on board controls for the airbags. I noticed as I drove and hit some bumps or whatever the needle on the gauge for the right side airbag seems to bounce around a lot whereas the other needle hardly moves. Any ideas why this may be? They both have the same amuont of air in them. Other then that they work great!
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I see that also on my truck. Generally you will see more movement in the right side as the roads are sloped to the right and that moves your center of gravity to the right. The more weight on the air bag from the load the higher the pressure will be in the air bag itself.

Adversely, the left bag in the same way is having weight removed from it and is able to stabilize with less forces acting on it and therefore, less movement on the needle.

When I first installed my system I was constantly adjusting it. Now I just put the camper on, find a level area to park, adjust the camper so it just contacts the overloads on both sides with the camper level and call it good.

By the way, nice installation job. I mounted my switches in the overhead console and the gauge under the dash over the gas peddle. I added an additional switch to turn the compressor off completely when I am not using the system.
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You'll like having onboard control and gauges to monitor them. As far as the gauge bouncing around, don't worry as long as the camper isn't bouncing back and forth. I originally bought them to keep my headlights out of oncoming traffics eyes.
My rig fully loaded with food and drink, dogs, toys, etc for a week needs 40 lbs in the passenger side and 25 lbs in the drivers side to get the feeling of level while driving.
The minute we hit the rocky bumpy leany roads (is leany a word?) I drop both bags to 5 lbs so the overloads will stop the over-lean (is that a word?) instead of the bags adding to the problem.
Then after the fresh water is in the holding tanks and the beer, pop, and food are no longer weight in the camper, the return trip makes the feeling level ride 30 lbs in drivers bag, and 20 lbs in the passenger side. The gauges seem to bounce around no matter the settings.
I had a bag blowout in 2002, was a freeky feeling at 65 mph. Anyhow I bought 2 when I replaced the one, (same reason you carry a spare tire) so that will never happen again (Murphys Law).
Just don't over inflate your airbag system, the dolphin effect gets worse with too much air.

* This post was edited 07/11/08 03:17pm by DanRoy *


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I always (almost) have slightly different pressures in the two bags, and change on the fly to find the sweet spot (s) throughout the trip.

Thinking about it you will realize your loads are really never the same, nor are the roads you travel.

The gages and tank are really more than nice-to-haves, they are a valuable tool to make traveling as comfortable as possible.


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