Rob_Fla

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You tell em!!!
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Chris

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sista wrote: Chris wrote: Sista, did you go trade for a dually yet? Chris
Funny you should ask Chris...was able to get to the scales yesterday and here's what I've got!
TV GWVR 9200 RAWR 6900 and Tires (E rated) 6400
TV loaded to the gills actual and without 5er 7680
GCWVR 22800 Actual 20240 (again loaded up...all fluids and my stuff
Actual TV (attached) 9740 and rear axle actual 5440
Pin weight 2060
Now for all you purists out there let the flaming begin! I am very comfortable with these numbers. I spent alot of time with my GM dealershsip (this is a small town and I know them well) who in turn called a tech specialist at GM and assured me my 2500 is safely pulling this fifth wheel.
I am putting airbags in the back. While you can't see with the naked eye any lift in the front of the TV, I know its there ever so slightly because my headlights are up a little. So, airbags should fix that!
Let the flaming begin! Can't wait to go camping this weekend!!!
That is a really light pin weight for a trailer that size. What was the weight of the trailer axles? And yes air bags will be good. You should get the dealers word in writing, then go for it. I can not flame you, as I as over GVWR also, but my state licenses my 2500 to 12K.
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Chris wrote: sista wrote: Chris wrote: Sista, did you go trade for a dually yet? Chris
Funny you should ask Chris...was able to get to the scales yesterday and here's what I've got!
TV GWVR 9200 RAWR 6900 and Tires (E rated) 6400
TV loaded to the gills actual and without 5er 7680
GCWVR 22800 Actual 20240 (again loaded up...all fluids and my stuff
Actual TV (attached) 9740 and rear axle actual 5440
Pin weight 2060
Now for all you purists out there let the flaming begin! I am very comfortable with these numbers. I spent alot of time with my GM dealershsip (this is a small town and I know them well) who in turn called a tech specialist at GM and assured me my 2500 is safely pulling this fifth wheel.
I am putting airbags in the back. While you can't see with the naked eye any lift in the front of the TV, I know its there ever so slightly because my headlights are up a little. So, airbags should fix that!
Let the flaming begin! Can't wait to go camping this weekend!!!
That is a really light pin weight for a trailer that size. What was the weight of the trailer axles? And yes air bags will be good. You should get the dealers word in writing, then go for it. I can not flame you, as I as over GVWR also, but my state licenses my 2500 to 12K.
Chris
I agree it is really light...I was expecting a little more and closer to 22000 combined weight. Trailer was 10440 which is also super light compared to the quoted specs from mfg! Went to a CAT scale at a local truck stop. Your state licenses your trucks weight? Weird.
A question for you though. My trucks tires call for 80 psi. My sensors in the truck want them at 70. When loaded should I tow with them at 80? What about the fronts? Sensors want them at 63-64. Should they be increased as well? Will that make a difference in my headlights? Still gonna get the air bags though.
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Luvpitts

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Remember; the tires are nitrogen filled!
Claudia & Wayne
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Chris

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You should have a tire load chart with the owners papers. Front weight will hardly change at all. I never change my fronts. 57-58 in 265/75R16 good for 3415 each. In the rears I run 42-44 empty and 70 or so with 2500-2600 lbs of pin weight. Do you have 265's or 245's? If 245's I would run 80lbs. 265's do not need the much.
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Luvpitts wrote: Remember; the tires are nitrogen filled!
That explains the light weight! I'm floating!!!
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Chris wrote: You should have a tire load chart with the owners papers. Front weight will hardly change at all. I never change my fronts. 57-58 in 265/75R16 good for 3415 each. In the rears I run 42-44 empty and 70 or so with 2500-2600 lbs of pin weight. Do you have 265's or 245's? If 245's I would run 80lbs. 265's do not need the much.
Chris
I have 265/75R17. I will just leave them at the recc pressure (on the truck door)
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Nitrogen is heavier than air.
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Chris

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12500 for a 39 foot trailer, that is what my 29 footer weights. Something is not right here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But GVWR 13960. Four slides to boot. Is it made out of space age materials. RESIDENTIAL model! NO holding tanks??? Nope web site list holding tanks.
Model/Sq.Ft R398 RLS R398 RSS
GVWR--------13960----14040
UVW---------10995----11010
Dry HITH WT-1960-----2040
Dry Axle WT-9035-----8970
Gross NCC---2965-----3030
Square Feet-398------398
Ext. Length-38'9"----38'9"
Ext. Height-153"-----153"
Ext. Width--100"-----100"
Water Heater-10 Gal. Gas/Electric DSI
Fresh Water-85 gal---85 gal
Gray Water--82 gal---82 gal
Waste Water-41 gal---41 gal
LP Gas (Lbs.)-80-----80
Furnace (BTUs)40,000-40,000
Tire Size-----16"----16"
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JR45

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Congratulations on a new fiver, but something doesn't add up! My Alpenlite has a dry pin wt. of 1902 lbs and a unloaded wt. of 10898 and 7ft shorter. Here are my wts. from 2 months ago, DOT scales in Oregon. Steer Axle 5050 lbs Drive Axle 5900 lbs Trailer Axle 10950 lbs Gross 21850 lbs Truck Steer 5000 lbs Drive 3200 lbs Truck Gross 8200 lbs rated at 11,400lbs, that gives me a pin wt. of 2700lbs with room up to 3200lbs.
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