mrjan54
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My 2008 F250 diesel owners manual says no more than 5% bio, does anyone know what i can expect when traveling in Canada, will i find tradition diesel or will i have more trouble with the bio.
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JMTTS
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ib516
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All Canadian diesel sold at commercial pumps is ULSD. I haven't even seen a bio diesel pump in Western Canada.
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david_42
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You will have to look very hard to find biodiesel in Canada. The current mandate for a 2% blend doesn't kick in until 2012.
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kernewek
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The only place I have ever seen Bio-Diesel up here was at a service station Okanagan Falls last summer
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D&E Johnson
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have not seen bio-diesel here in southern Ontario. We use Sunoco gold diesel or shell.Dona
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dmax lover
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5% bio in ulsd is allowed by the manufacturer because this is the level at which it is considered an additive to the fuel versus a fuel blend.
I was running biodiesel in my duramax at very high levels when I first purchased it. After the fuel filter clogged up after 3k miles - I cut it open to find a bunch of white goo in it, glycerine.
The main disadvantage of biodiesel in the dmax is that it isn't as stable as ulsd. The fuel is heated and cooled repeatedly in the dmax fuel system as it is brought to pressures exceeding 20k psi. Fuel is sent forward - some is burned, some is used to cool the fuel components and then is returned to the tank; There is a cooler in front of the tank that lowers the fuel temp so that it doesn't form asphaltines (tar).
I still use biodiesel on occasion to clean and lubricate the fuel system, but only go with a gallon or so on top of 33 gallons of ulsd.
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Greentreena
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I haven't see it in BC but I have seen it is North West Washington and it was clearly labled. That was the first time I ever had a choice of 3 different kinds of diesel. I seem to think is was labled B-2 (ULSD) B-5 and B-20, the B20 was a big mix of bio diesel I seem to remember.
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dmax lover
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b5 means 5% biodiesel mixed with regular diesel...
b20 means 20% biodiesel is mixed with regular diesel.
I was running 80% bio and 50% bio (b80 and b50) and mixing it myself at the pump. There was one pump that was b99..
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MPD56
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Like it was mentioned earlier, all diesel sold at pumps in Canada are ULSD and you will not have a problem finding USLD for the Ford 6.4L engine. Bio-diesel is just getting started in Northern Ontario, but there are only a few places that sell it. I have the same engine (6.4L) as you and have tried the bio-diesel (5% bio-diesel or B5). My opinion on it now, is that the B5 cost the same as the ULSD where I live and it is my understanding that B5 has less BTUs so I don’t see any advantage to pay the same and I get less or take the risk of problems with my engine, also for an example you have to do more maintenance on your engine when using bio-diesel, because the service manual states that you have to change filters and oil sooner which also cost me more. The fuel station that sells the bio-diesel has two pumps and the pumps are not marked bio because the station thinks that because there is a big sign out front, I should assume that they don’t sale ULSD, so if in doubt, you should ask. I’m not an expert on bio-diesel, so till someone tells me it’s cheaper and better, I’ll use USLD. I have friends that make and burn bio-diesel, but not till the warranty was done. Enjoy your travels in Canada!!
FYI: USLD is about $3.50 (Canadian) for a US gallon today in Northern Ontario.
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