buddyIam
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You complain legitimately of your wives problem. But then use her plight as a soap box in support of a Republican prescription plan, that will provide absolutely no benefit to your wife for 15 years.
If you care for others who may not have the finances available to them as you do. You would be in support of the democrat Medicare prescription drug plan...
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BuddyKidd
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I am on a fixed income and I don't see how I can afford the Democrat's plan.
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colo_crawdad
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Have you ever seen a government program that was well run and cost effecient?
I kind of hope the military is one example.
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Inspector Fenwick
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The difference is that it is Constitutional to have a military. It is NOT Constitutional to go into the health care business, or the education business, for that matter. I was wondering how to answer buddy's post, whilst walking my dog, but crawdaddy's post provided the answer. We will disagree on the above, but that's o.k. It does "point" out our main differences. I want the government to do the things it's supposed to according to a very compact and simple document, and for that I will be grateful, and glad to pay my share. You and buddy and bikeman want the government to take care of you and protect from yourselves, and you want everyone to pay for it, and for that I will NOT be grateful, in fact I'll be d**ned mad. If you have two hind legs, it is your duty to your country to stand on them.
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buddyIam
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You are right that neither plan is a great plan. But the Republican plan will take away choice. Under their plan you will have to sign away your Medicare rights and join a Medigap type policy.
Then there is also people such as L.D.'s wife who will not be able to join a Medigap plan until she turns 65 (she is disabled and 49 now), because her state insurance laws don't require medigap coverage until age 65.
Private doctors say they are going broke. Private hospitals say they are going broke. And the Republican plan envisions an America where they are the only game in town.
When they are the only game in town, will we just have to poor more money at them like we do the airline industry. Of course we will. It's a service of greater importance than law enforcement.
We can not allow the medical monopoly envisioned by the Republican plan.
*This Message was edited on 22-Apr-03 07:50 PM by buddyIam*
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RKW
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The state of health care in the USA is screwed up precisly to degree that federal government is already involved.
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BuddyKidd
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I didn't say I wanted the Republican plan. I don't like the Republican plan anymore than I like the Democratic plan. I can't afford either of them.
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L.D.
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If you think the military is cost efficient or cost effective, you need to check the price of hammers, toilets and such.
The military has long since paid too much for supplies and has a very low personel efficiency rating.
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Inspector Fenwick
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How about NO PLAN? I vote for that + do the things I already suggested. Get rid of the freeloaders (attorneys) and other parasites.
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brunsie
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I could not help posting a reply on this thread. I happen to have lived in Britain while I was in the Air Force in the mid eighties. This allowed me to meet my wife who is from Scotland. Having family from the UK I have personally seen the benefits and negative aspects of a national health care system. If you have a cold, the flu, or some other relativly minor problem the care is excelent. Also medicines are provided at no cost. The problem begins if you have anything out of the ordinary or anything very severe. My wife has lost 5 immediate family members due to the "System" that neiter her nor I believe would have died if they had recieved their care here in the US. The worst case was her mother. Her mother had diabetes and due to a foot injury it was determined her big toe needed to be removed. They scheduled the surgery for 3 months later. When they put her on the operating table they discovered the gangreen had moved up her leg (who would have thunk it-3 months) and that they needed to remove her leg up to the knee. But, since she was only scheduled to have the toe removed that is all the took and told her to come back in another month to have the rest of the leg removed. One month later on the operating room table it was discovered the gangreen had spread to the other leg. Once again come back in another month to have the other leg removed. After the third surgery she died in recovery, the gangreen had spread even further through her body and she just could not take it anymore. If within 24-48 hours of the initial discovery of gangreen in her big toe they would have removed it she likely would have lived many more years. I could give 4 other similar stories but I think you get the picture. Back in the early nineties when Hillary was pushing national health care I looked at the socialized medicine offered by most every country that has it. There is a very clear picture, it starts off good and slowly deteriorates until it is very subpar at best. 20 years is about all anyone has been able to run one successfuly before it starts the downward spiral.
I know our system is far from perfect, I am only 37 and with the rapid rise in the cost of care by the time I retire who knows where it will be, but I for one would rather try and fix our system than going to a nationlaly run government system.
Thanks for listening.
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